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Old 8/23/09, 9:37 AM
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I don't see it as a violation of equal protection under the law, but it is a conflict of interest. Obama buys a bankrupt company with our money, then takes more of our money and uses it to bring in customers to his company. The clunkers and the consumers where just a way of making it not appear so bad and camouflaging the stupidity of his purchase of a portion of a bankrupt company for more than its historic market cap high (dumbest business move in all of human history).

Cash for your clunker- $4000.00
Cash for first time home buyer- $8000

BUILDING CONSUMER CONFIDENCE- PRICELESS



Spend today and pay tommorow.



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Old 8/23/09, 10:36 AM
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"Cash for your clunker- $4000.00
Cash for first time home buyer- $8000

BUILDING CONSUMER CONFIDENCE- PRICELESS"


And your great, great, great, great grandchildren will be paying for it. First time in human history that a country has deliberately and knowingly bankrupted itself. It would be fascinating to watch if it wasn't so terrifying.
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Old 8/23/09, 12:10 PM
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Here is the real problem. You all probably know by now that I believe that subliminal marketing works. It can work for you or against you. Ever wonder why InterNACHI chapter Presidents who invite all the agents to the InterNACHI meetings are so busy? Even though the agents never come, the invitation is a great subliminal marketing piece that reminds all the local agents that the head of the chapter is their local inspection association President.

Now, the mistake Obama made with health care and the reason so many senior citizens revolted was directly the result of Cash for Clunkers which subliminally insinuates that something old, even if operating, should be destroyed.

I figured this one out myself week one.



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Old 8/23/09, 12:17 PM
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It is working great here, get the crap off the road, no more choking behind that smoke screen car. Of cousre it did keep the Mosquitoes down . Only problem all the fly by night crap car dealers are running low on cars. This will mean the lots will be closed leaving half the road clutter gone. What to do what to do. Maybe we have to plant trees or something . Oh this could mean a work project or two.
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Old 8/23/09, 12:56 PM
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Cash for your clunker- $4000.00
Cash for first time home buyer- $8000

BUILDING CONSUMER CONFIDENCE- PRICELESS



Spend today and pay tommorow.
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Old 8/23/09, 1:21 PM
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Any government spending is paid by us, the taxpayers. More spending by Obama and his cronies, the more in taxes we will have to pay, sooner or later.

There is no way that 5.2 million homes sold for July. There is only an inventory of 4.1 million homes? Math is not correct. Perhaps that is a "adjusted" rate. Sounds like Obamanomics.
I believe they were referring to $$ value in the article.



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Old 8/23/09, 1:37 PM
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I believe they were referring to $$ value in the article.
No, they said inventory Brian.



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Old 8/23/09, 1:46 PM
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I think that the "first time buyer" credit and the "cash for clunkers" program violate the Equal Protection provisions of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution.
So all of those republican lawyers that are adamantly opposed to the presidents programs just let it slide?
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Old 8/23/09, 1:54 PM
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Strange how all you liberals can do is to pick at the man for being an Attorney or Pilot, just because you don't have an answer for him. I do believe you're jealous of him.



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Old 8/23/09, 3:06 PM
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LOL Kenneth I ask for him to explain what he meant and i got a typical spin answer . Just like a true conservative . Answer with a another conversational topic to get a response. to avoid explaining a statement. Have i confused you yet?
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Old 8/24/09, 12:34 PM
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"Cash for your clunker- $4000.00
Cash for first time home buyer- $8000

BUILDING CONSUMER CONFIDENCE- PRICELESS"

And your great, great, great, great grandchildren will be paying for it. First time in human history that a country has deliberately and knowingly bankrupted itself. It would be fascinating to watch if it wasn't so terrifying.
Somebody has to pay. I did not vote for this.



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Old 8/24/09, 12:37 PM
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Here is the real problem. You all probably know by now that I believe that subliminal marketing works. It can work for you or against you. Ever wonder why InterNACHI chapter Presidents who invite all the agents to the InterNACHI meetings are so busy? Even though the agents never come, the invitation is a great subliminal marketing piece that reminds all the local agents that the head of the chapter is their local inspection association President.

Now, the mistake Obama made with health care and the reason so many senior citizens revolted was directly the result of Cash for Clunkers which subliminally insinuates that something old, even if operating, should be destroyed.

I figured this one out myself week one.
Nick the real problem is giving people credit to buy more than they can afford. Your just poking at the present and getting nowhere.



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Old 8/24/09, 12:58 PM
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My neighbor owns three new car dealerships. As of last Friday, he had 242 clunkers on his lot that he traded for. He has gotten paid for only 9. If he does not get his money in 60 days, the bank (government) can take over his dealerships. Sound familiar?

Nick, when is the government going to take over iNACHI? There are reps in Washington already to have the "other national inspection AS**" to be run by the government. Their lobbyists are there already selling themselves, so they can take over the inspection industry by writing their own rules and regulations. The days of the State laws are numbered. Just look at Cap and Trade. I mentioned this on another thread back in February when we were fighting the Kansas laws. Feds are coming.

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Old 8/24/09, 1:13 PM
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Frank, as I remember none of us "we the people" voted on cash for clunkers, $8k first time buyers or the multiple trillion dollar mess. I think we were told by this socialistic government what and where our money will be spent
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