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Old 9/21/08, 7:40 PM
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Gentle readers,

Notice that Joey has presented nothing I repeat nothing.

Why? Because he has no answers.

All mouth, no action, no plan, no clue.

What's in the water down there anyway?


You BS deserves no response, but is is so asinine that I must waste further bandwidth just to prove how stupid & misguided you are.

It is a typical Christian-Wingnut ploy to create a straw-man argument seeking answers to the unanswerable and then claim superiority.

This financial crisis we are all suffering from was created by Mikey's political party who has been running things for the last eight years, but now he expects that anyone who recognizes this fact must also have a plan to fix the mess he & his party caused or their complaint is somehow invalidated.

Mikey, I had nothing to due with this financial fu@k up that occurred under your presidents leadership regardless of how you attempt to make it my problem.

Do us all a favor and just piss off!



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Old 9/21/08, 7:48 PM
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Old 9/21/08, 7:49 PM
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Old 9/21/08, 7:53 PM
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What time is it when your friends turn on you?

Bill O'Reilly Declares The Bush Presidency Over



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Old 9/21/08, 8:01 PM
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Thank you Joey for you well thought out response.

No plan, no action, no clue.

This is from a site that opposed the Bush plan on Social Security.

As for the current state of Social Security, the Trust Fund has a surplus of over $1.5 trillion, accumulated from the wages of the baby boom generation (1946-1965), which will begin retiring in large numbers in 2008. The Trust Fund is ample to pay out the retirement benefits for the baby boomers—who would be from 87 to 106 years old by the time of the projected “crisis.” The shortfall, if any, would affect the next generation, those under 40 today.

Now if that site or Joey had a clue, they/he would already know that the "$1.5 Trillion" surplusdoesn't exist except as an I.O.U. to and payable by the American taxpayer. It's been spent, it's gone, it only exists on paper with no real assets. Period.

Our politicians have known for decades that this is the truth and have refused to fix it. They continue to play the game hoping the voters won't notice. Sadly , most like Joey don't.

If the politicians wouldn't approve Bush's partial solution on SS what are the chances they will ever fix it for real?



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Old 9/21/08, 8:15 PM
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This is from a site that opposed the Bush plan on Social Security.
Awful lot of drivel & miscommunication even from you, what was your question again Mikey? Are you saying that letting Bush pimp our Social Security funds would solve the financial crisis? Just spit it out boy!



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Old 9/21/08, 8:20 PM
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Joey, I'll keep it simple for you.

The money was gone before Bush was even on the seen.

He tried to bring some reality to the situation.

The game continues.

We loose.

Once again no plan., no action, no clue.



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Old 9/21/08, 8:22 PM
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A vote for John McCain is a vote for a third Bush term. McCain admitted that his relationship with Bush is based on shared views in Iraq, immigration and a common agenda. McCain has offered no plan to end the war in Iraq. In fact, McCain says he is comfortable with being in Iraq for a hundred years. McCain offers a health care plan that is similar to Bush’s proposal, which failed to expand coverage and cut health care costs. McCain endorsed Bush’s plan to privatize Social Security—so much so he joined Bush on the campaign to sell the proposal. Although McCain previously opposed Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy he has made a “breathtaking turnaround” and supports these budget-busting, tax cuts for the wealthy.

Get the facts on John "McBush" McCain:




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Old 9/21/08, 8:27 PM
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The money was gone before Bush was even on the seen.
seen=scene, right?

Is this something else we will just have to take on faith like your religious mumbo-jumbo? This is Bush's fault and you know it, I know it and the world knows it. The buck stops in the oval office.

Mikey... No proof, no integrity, no kidding.



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Old 9/21/08, 8:31 PM
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A vote for John McCain is a vote for a third Bush term. McCain admitted that his relationship with Bush is based on shared views in Iraq, immigration and a common agenda.

Good
. We must finish the work we started.

McCain has offered no plan to end the war in Iraq. In fact, McCain says he is comfortable with being in Iraq for a hundred years.

Another lie from the left.
Keep ripping those quotes out of context it makes you look stupid when someone checks.

McCain offers a health care plan that is similar to Bush’s proposal, which failed to expand coverage and cut health care costs.

Obama's plan is is even worse. Look around the world to see examples of the waiting lines an rationing Obama's plan ensures.

McCain endorsed Bush’s plan to privatize Social Security—so much so he joined Bush on the campaign to sell the proposal.

Obama's plan is without merit. Period. It's broke and he can't fix it.

Although McCain previously opposed Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy he has made a “breathtaking turnaround” and supports these budget-busting, tax cuts for the wealthy.

You just don't get it do you. You cant' tax the wealthy into this nations prosperity by redistributing the wealth. The "Rich" already pay the lion's share of teh tax revenue received.

Get the facts on John "McBush" McCain:

I'll tell you this. I probably won't like a McCain presidency anymore than I did the Bush presidency but an Obama presidency is unthinkable and dangerous.



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Old 9/21/08, 9:01 PM
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I'll tell you this. I probably won't like a McCain presidency anymore than I did the Bush presidency but an Obama presidency is unthinkable and dangerous.
Unfortunately our choices are limited.



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Old 9/21/08, 9:23 PM
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Unfortunately our choices are limited.
Finally we agree on something.



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Old 9/21/08, 9:47 PM
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Tonight, on "60 Minutes", Obama was critical of McCain while McCain was equally critical of his own party, as he was his opponent.

And one did not have to be a student of body language to see him shake his head "no" as he answered "yes" to the question "Would Sarah Palin actually make a good president?"

The man is more dangerous to the safety of Americans than Osama bin Laden.



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Old 9/21/08, 10:07 PM
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The man is more dangerous to the safety of Americans than Osama bin Laden.
After last weeks market manipulation by the Bush Administration and next weeks bailout and destruction of America as we know it, my only form of retaliation is for the rest of my life to vow to never again vote for an incumbent ever, this my personal revenge & revolution.

Vote the bastards of office every chance you get!



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Old 9/22/08, 4:34 PM
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I'm for the bailout. I think that if we are going to bailout anyone, the payoff of every mortgage in America should be the goal.

The current plan is for the US to relieve the banks of the burden of bad debt on mortgages (that'sw what we've been told). I say, instead of buying the bad debt, and having folks keep paying for somethng they cant afford, that our government would be better off simply paying off every mortgage in America. This way, we wouldnt have mortgage payments, and could afford the taxes. Banks with huge loads of **** investments not directly related to Joe Taxpayer, should be allowed to crash and burn.

If I had no mortgage, I could spend money on cars, food, health care, etc...

Oh, one other thing... If you were at the helm of one of these financial houses that have run aground, you should walk the plank. No retirement and no bonus for you.

When we f-up on the job, we get fired and get no golden parachute, retirement, incentive, or bonus.
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