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Old 1/10/12, 3:43 PM
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Default And yet another new article.

This one inspired by a recent news event. A woman was killed in a high-rise apartment fire in an upscale neighborhood. Why?

The owners of the apartment where the fire started wanted to enable their cat, who the couldn't find, to escape. So they jambed open the fire safety door to their unit.

Please critique, and feel free to swipe anything that you might like:

http://deckerhomeservices.com/buildi...es_minimum.htm

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Old 1/10/12, 4:16 PM
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Default Re: And yet another new article.

Yep read that in paper today.
They left the door open.
The buildings have 3 years to fix things.
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Old 1/10/12, 4:28 PM
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Default Re: And yet another new article.

Well done article I only found 2 mistakes. Where is Kathleen when you need her. She will probably find more.



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Old 1/10/12, 7:51 PM
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Default Re: And yet another new article.

Three items I saw:

As a result, the fire and smoke spread to the hallway and, sadly, killed. (a woman)
circuit breakers and should only do done by a qualified (only be done)

Third is more of a question: I have always heard 10 years on smoke detectors, from fire alarm certifications I have been involved with to the actual dates now printed on the devices. A FEMA site I found also states 10 years http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pyfff/smkalarm.html.

I am asking from a learning perspective - not confrontation. Is 5 years an Illinois thing?



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Old 1/10/12, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: And yet another new article.

Excellent article Will, a suggestion to add to your safety hazards section would be info on the safety anti tip devices (brackets) for a range/ oven.
http://www.jwkhomeinspections.com/sa...e-bracket.html
I just had an inspection today w/ a single mother w/ 3 kids and I did show her the range was missing the anti tip bracket.



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Old 1/10/12, 11:15 PM
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Excellent article Will, a suggestion to add to your safety hazards section would be info on the safety anti tip devices (brackets) for a range/ oven.
http://www.jwkhomeinspections.com/sa...e-bracket.html
I just had an inspection today w/ a single mother w/ 3 kids and I did show her the range was missing the anti tip bracket.
GREAT POINT! I see this in about 90% of the houses I inspect. Seems like the local appliance installation people have no clue.

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Old 1/10/12, 11:17 PM
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GREAT POINT! I see this in about 90% of the houses I inspect. Seems like the local appliance installation people have no clue.

Thanks!
Not only is it not installed, I often find it in the packing material with the operator booklets...

I love it when they have those books...usually page 1 about 1-2 paragraphs down, I show them the information and then reach in the bag and pull out the device...



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Old 1/10/12, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: And yet another new article.

Thanks, Russ. Both added.



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Old 1/10/12, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: And yet another new article.

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This one inspired by a recent news event. A woman was killed in a high-rise apartment fire in an upscale neighborhood. Why?

The owners of the apartment where the fire started wanted to enable their cat, who the couldn't find, to escape. So they jambed open the fire safety door to their unit.

Please critique, and feel free to swipe anything that you might like:

http://deckerhomeservices.com/buildi...es_minimum.htm

Thanks;
Homeowner is negligent by virtue of liability.
Owners actions created scenario of liability and Loss.

Property Manager (if contracted and present) is also negligent
if action was aware and not taken against the homeowner
when informed of non-compliance of cited action......



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Old 1/11/12, 2:29 AM
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Default Re: And yet another new article.

Haha Kevin, I feel like I found myself a new job!

most of the surrounding town and suburbs have also adopted these standards. But, if this is so, why did this woman die? (s at the end of town)

The homeowner cannot be reasonably required to have his house rebuilt every 5 years, so the local governments allow "grandfathering" or older houses and buildings (on /of)

You did well Will!

One of the contractors working on the mcmansion two down from me cut through the phone line today so we had no phone or internet all day, the builder said he did nothing wrong!!! He's a big guy and I'm well, not, so I left it at that, and found something else to be productive with.



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Old 1/11/12, 3:24 AM
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Default Re: And yet another new article.

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Excellent article Will, a suggestion to add to your safety hazards section would be info on the safety anti tip devices (brackets) for a range/ oven.
http://www.jwkhomeinspections.com/sa...e-bracket.html
I just had an inspection today w/ a single mother w/ 3 kids and I did show her the range was missing the anti tip bracket.
Important but bear in mind it also depends on weight and balance.
I always throw my body weight on the top edge to see if it is going to move.

Some of those older models are not going to budge ,so keep it in perspective.
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Old 1/11/12, 11:18 AM
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Homeowner is negligent by virtue of liability.
Owners actions created scenario of liability and Loss.

Property Manager (if contracted and present) is also negligent
if action was aware and not taken against the homeowner
when informed of non-compliance of cited action......
You underestimate the power of Chicago trial lawyers, and the state case law that says that local code inspectors have aboslutely NO liability. The building owner will be found guilty and forced to hire a politically connected contractor to repair and upgrade. Laws, around here, are seen as mere guidelines that can be changed at the whim of an Alderman, the Mayor or the union bosses.

Kinda like what a certain former Chicagoan is now doing in Washington.



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Old 1/11/12, 11:20 AM
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Haha Kevin, I feel like I found myself a new job!

most of the surrounding town and suburbs have also adopted these standards. But, if this is so, why did this woman die? (s at the end of town)

The homeowner cannot be reasonably required to have his house rebuilt every 5 years, so the local governments allow "grandfathering" or older houses and buildings (on /of)

You did well Will!

One of the contractors working on the mcmansion two down from me cut through the phone line today so we had no phone or internet all day, the builder said he did nothing wrong!!! He's a big guy and I'm well, not, so I left it at that, and found something else to be productive with.
Thanks, got them all.

Of course the contractor "did nothing wrong". Besides, you are only a girl and what do you know.

Next time, do what my wife does. Strap on a Magnum Research 1911A1 .45 before you talk to him. They become very polite, all of a sudden. I don't know why.



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Old 1/11/12, 2:25 PM
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Not only is it not installed, I often find it in the packing material with the operator booklets...
I love it when they have those books...usually page 1 about 1-2 paragraphs down, I show them the information and then reach in the bag and pull out the device...
Does this look familiar Russell ?
Here's one like you mentioned. Booklet and bracket were in the drawer next to oven. So I put it out on counter.
Preowned home inspection, new appliances recently installed.
I'm sure appliance supplier was happy to here their installer follows manufacturers installation instructions.
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Old 1/11/12, 2:26 PM
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I'd love to arm up Will, LOL, but it's illegal here, and he has a cell phone, I'd be gone in 60 seconds. I'm not so confidant with the hand guns, but I'm a crack shot with my rifle. Where'd I put that scope.....



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