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Old 12/29/07, 10:17 AM
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A handrail is no longer considered "continuous" when 1,2, or 3 is installed at the bottom tread. True or False?

If you don't know without looking it up, http://www.nachi.tv/episode16




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Old 12/29/07, 10:40 AM
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Old 12/29/07, 12:38 PM
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Stair and Railing components

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Old 12/29/07, 2:15 PM
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Bigger question is whether or not the client would even care.

Maybe it was the way the question was worded. These may all be utilized, providing they are supported vertically (downward/upward pressure) from the bottom tread. It is ususally the starting or ending point of the handrail, so what does "continuous" have to do with anything?

A more practical question having to do with handrails is in an older colonial, where there is a jog in the wall. My home is 9 years old, and I have such a jog ibn my wall. The handrail id not, continuous. The stair installer performed the installation, and it was inspected and acceptable to the AHJ.

Technically, the handrail should have curved around the jog to be continuous, but it doesnt. Why was this allowed by the AJH, who busted balls on almost everything else? Very experienced AJH. Nice guy, but was a stickler.

Here's a point for discussion...

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Old 12/29/07, 6:38 PM
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Bigger question is whether or not the client would even care.

so what does "continuous" have to do with anything?
This is a pivotal moment for a student, yound or old. "Should I take time in learning something that may not be of apparent interest to my client?" "Why should I care about "continuous" handrails?" "What does a "nose" have to do with anything?"

I would encourage any inspector to know more than what simply interests your client. Much more.

Most home owners do not care about continous handrails, until there's a problem - like when the volute ends on the 2nd tread instead of the bottom tread, and someone falls and gets hurt. Your client will care when they get hurt.

My goal in the stairway inspection video was to go over a stairway in great detail. So that when you're on an inspection, you can recognize a defect quickly (I'm snapping my fingers) and accurately report it.

That defect, whether of interest to your client or not, whether your client presently cares about it or not, may have a impact on their safety later on.

Many of the viewers of the stair inspection video with Paige are not watching the entire video. I encourage you to watch the whole thing. Why? Why learn about "volutes?" Why learn about "continous?" Why learn about "illumination" of stairways? Why learn about things in detail that may not be of interest to your client at the time of their inspection? What does "continuous" have to do with anything?

The answer is simple. Knowledge is power. Power. Your power.

I encourage everyone reading this to learn - learn something - in depth. That's why NACHI.TV took extraordinary measures (time, talent, money) to video something ordinary and commonplace - stairs. And produced a 10 minute, robust, informative, detailed video that I trust is thoroughly educational as well as entertaining. Maximum learning in minimum time.

I hear, "But the stuff in the video goes way beyond the InterNACHI S.O.P.! So therefore, it's got nothing to do with me." Oh yeah. Wait until someone falls down the stairs that you didn't know how to inspect.

Don't think that you have to learn the details of a stairway. Don't sweat the memorizing of details, measurements, codes. Use a computer software program, and enter the narratives that NACHI.TV provided. It's so easy.


If you haven't seen the whole video in its entirety. I encourage you to play it again. It's well worth your time.

It's the pivotal moment of anyone learning anything. What should I learn? and Why?




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Old 12/29/07, 7:13 PM
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Excellent post Ben.
http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=1&re...72839a4d70b924
Not sure where I got it from.

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Old 12/29/07, 7:47 PM
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Excellent post Ben.
http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=1&re...72839a4d70b924
Not sure where I got it from.
Robert,
What am I supposed to do open an account and e-mail you for the info?

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Old 12/29/07, 7:58 PM
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Perhaps he was trying to post this.

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Old 12/29/07, 8:18 PM
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That's a good document. Boring. But good.

It doesn't come close to the information presented by Paige.

Recommend printing out and reading the companion checklist and stairway narratives while viewing http://www.nachi.tv/episode16.




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Thanks for the link Erby.

Visual Interpretation of the 2006 IRC Stair Building Code
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Old 12/29/07, 8:50 PM
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This is a good stairway document too. Pretty concise.stairway doc.pdf




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Whats the best way to link a PDF as when I go to attachments it says it is to large.?
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Whats the best way to link a PDF as when I go to attachments it says it is to large.?
Bob, download Adobe Reader...it's free. That should solve your problem. http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
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Chris I have Adobe or I would not have the PDF to begin with.
But I have it in my documents and I need to know how to link it to here for you to download..
When I go to attachmentds on the NACHI board the program say,s the 1.5 MB is to large though the PDF is only like 10 pages.
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