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Old 12/30/07, 2:48 AM
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Chris I have Adobe or I would not have the PDF to begin with.
But I have it in my documents and I need to know how to link it to here for you to download..
When I go to attachmentds on the NACHI board the program say,s the 1.5 MB is to large though the PDF is only like 10 pages.
Robert,
E-mail it over and I'll see what I can do...then send instructions back to ya...



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Old 12/30/07, 12:01 PM
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That's why I upload it to the my file manager on my web server and then provide a link to it. No restrictions on file size that way.

One thing you can try is to print the PDF to another PDF using a lower quality setting that the original one.

I find that about 100 DPI (dots per inch) are satisfactory for documents, but my PDF printer goes up to 1400 DPI. Way to big for most stuff I do.
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Old 12/30/07, 12:09 PM
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Ben:

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That's a good document. Boring. But good.

It doesn't come close to the information presented by Paige.

Recommend printing out and reading the companion checklist and stairway narratives while viewing http://www.nachi.tv/episode16.
Your are right. It is a good document.

You're right. Doesn't come close. But I can't carry Paige to the inspection in my pocket or briefcase. (Bummer) Good source, but no quick referral method.

Where are the links to the companion checklist and stairway narratives? Can you provide a link to all appropriate documents on the video page? That would be a big plus!
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Old 12/30/07, 12:29 PM
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Thanks,I thought sending myself an e-mail and copying the short cut had worked in the past.
On some foums you can right click the thing in with a simple paste.
As far as uploading to my web server goes I was going to try that next.
Just seems like a lot of trouble for what should be a quick attachment.
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Old 12/30/07, 12:39 PM
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"Where are the links to the companion checklist and stairway narratives? Can you provide a link to all appropriate documents on the video page? That would be a big plus!"

Erby,

There is a quick referral method. Use the video-companion checklist. http://www.nachi.org/stairways.htm This link appears at the end of the video.

There, you'll find all the details that Paige was going over, and more. And report narratives for each stairway component Paige inspected.

There are two ways to use the video-companion checklist. 1) import all of the information (component details and narratives) into your reporting method. 2) Read the checklist while the video is playing.

1) In relation to my reporting method: I use PV Software http://www.nachi.org/pvscommercial.htm on my PDA. That way I don't have to remember all of the stairway component details. I simply scroll down on my PDA, choose the component, click the narrative. It's easy to use.

2) In relation to the NACHI.TV video: I recommend printing out the video-companion checklist, and read along while Paige performs a detailed inspection of a stairway. (The checklist is only 2 pages; the video is only 10 minutes long.)


WHY?


Personally, I learn the most by watching others do. That's one of the benefits of NACHI.TV. Somehow, for some reason, the brain can store and retrieve more relavant information via my eyes and ears. [The most effective way to learn in this profession is hands-on, but that's difficult to do over the Internet. ]


The next best thing to actually being there, is NACHI.TV! By reading the video-companion checklist while watching the NACHI.TV inspection video, you'll be able to learn the maximum amount of information in the minimum amount of time.


Have you watched the entire video?



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Old 12/30/07, 12:44 PM
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I understand all that Ben. Can you link the documents on the video page so we can find them easily.

I've watched her once all the way thru and have skipped back and forth a couple of other times. NOW, I understand the difference between the 4" and the 4 3/8". It had confused me before.

I look forward to more videos of this type. BUT, please, link the companion documents directly on the video page. I had trouble finding the companion document you mention.
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Old 12/30/07, 1:00 PM
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You got it!



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Old 12/30/07, 1:13 PM
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Ben,

You fasiled to answer the question. I see many non-continuous handrails where a wall jog is seen. Though I point it out, the AHJ says its fine.

Additionally, I still fail to see where a turnout at the lowest tread has anything to do with a continuous handrail. The turnout is typically installed at the starting point. That was the crux of the question that started this discussion.
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Old 12/30/07, 1:24 PM
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Joe,

Even with a jog in the wall, the handrail should be continuous. Without twisting the fingers or releasing. www.stairways.org has a great document with a "jogged" handrail picture.

"Continuous" is measured, like Paige demonstated in her video, from a point directly above the top riser of a flight to a point directly above the lowest riser. The use of a volute, for example, may not bring the handrail to a point directly above the lowest riser. They typically curve outwards coming short of that point.

I find "knowing exceptions to the rules" very useful in this profession.




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Old 12/30/07, 1:24 PM
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There are two ways to use the video-companion checklist. 1) import all of the information (component details and narratives) into your reporting method. 2) Read the checklist while the video is playing.

Ben, it is a good video. To read the checklist why it is playing you must watch it twice. Maybe you could put the link or a copy of the list at the beginning so we could copy it and read while we watch.



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Old 12/30/07, 1:34 PM
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Got it.
I think Bill Gates wrote once something like "My greatest source of learning came from customers who weren't completely satisfied."
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Old 12/30/07, 2:11 PM
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Ok here is one way to link the file.
Old Wiki experiment page put to use.
Ithe PDF is some sort of ICC reference , but is very good.
PDF stairs
Another good link
http://www.stairways.org/

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