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Old 2/5/09, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: Censorship of members?

Dale, Chris found a solution for this as well. If a moderator continues to delete posts (which sends them back into the unapproved que) and those posts are re-approved over and over by fellow members, the moderator becomes known as "statistically trigger happy" and will eventually lose his/her moderator status.

He's really thought this one out.



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Old 2/5/09, 11:44 PM
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Yep. And as always, I do not access the members-only section. It is a free from Nick and non-members zone.
That's another issue, Nick. If we, as members, have an issue with INACHI that isn't resolved with personal communications, and we, as members, want to bring it to the membership, we can no longer do so, as you don't go to the members only section (wink, wink), and we can't, as you already posted, "air dirty laundry" in the non-members section where you post, then you have effectively eliminated the members ability to call an issue out...

Sounds like the biggest conflict in INACHI is trying to run a member organization as a dictatorship.....



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Old 2/6/09, 12:01 AM
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Yes, ASHI's membership shrinkage is causing them to try to slow us down by sending over their attackers.

It hasn't worked. We get more new members every day than they get all month: www.nachi.org/memberstats.htm
Oh pleeeeeze stop!

You're digging a hole Nick.



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Old 2/6/09, 12:24 AM
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Yes, ASHI's membership shrinkage is causing them to try to slow us down by sending over their attackers.

It hasn't worked. We get more new members every day than they get all month: www.nachi.org/memberstats.htm
ASHI sending over their attackers????? What was it you said, Nick, when ASHI kicked you out in the 90s, "they unleashed a tiger" or something along those lines.....I think the attacker you are referring to is one that YOU unleashed! But that is just one member's opinion....



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Old 2/6/09, 12:27 AM
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Oh pleeeeeze stop!

You're digging a hole Nick.
He must be trying to get more members in China.
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Old 2/6/09, 2:55 PM
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Sounds like non-members who show proper manners will not be affected...
and members can duke it out in the members only section.
Although I am not a Home Inspector, I believe that my posts and considered contributions are worthwhile.

But now, I may as well not get involved in any fervent ongoing discussions, since my posts need to be held in limbo status until moderated.

Also, as a contributor to this forum, although not a Home Inspector, I now find that many of the forums are now closed off to me and labeled private.

I apologize if I seem a bit miffed at that, but it sure seems like a very broad brush slap in the face to those who seemingly do not deserve to be censored and banned from worthwhile forum content.

So yes, it does affect quality active non-members who attempted to contribute to continuing educational development on worthwhile topics.

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Old 2/6/09, 7:07 PM
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Although I am not a Home Inspector, I believe that my posts and considered contributions are worthwhile.

But now, I may as well not get involved in any fervent ongoing discussions, since my posts need to be held in limbo status until moderated.

Also, as a contributor to this forum, although not a Home Inspector, I now find that many of the forums are now closed off to me and labeled private.

I apologize if I seem a bit miffed at that, but it sure seems like a very broad brush slap in the face to those who seemingly do not deserve to be censored and banned from worthwhile forum content.

So yes, it does affect quality active non-members who attempted to contribute to continuing educational development on worthwhile topics.

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Old 2/6/09, 7:17 PM
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It began with the 2008 Member of the Year, Barry Adair....and continues with Mr. Falko and those to follow.

Censorship will kill this board.



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Old 2/6/09, 7:20 PM
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Although I am not a Home Inspector, I believe that my posts and considered contributions are worthwhile.
I find it disturbing that some low-brow NACHI bully now has control over your worthwhile contributions, it is a sad day for NACHI and all of us have now become poorer in the quest for protection and security.

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Old 2/6/09, 7:24 PM
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It began with the 2008 Member of the Year, Barry Adair....and continues with Mr. Falko and those to follow.

Censorship will kill this board.
Jim, why is it I want to agree with you, and this is a first.
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Old 2/8/09, 12:15 AM
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You got that right Chris.....this message board has gone right to hell....very seldom is there anything worth reading or looking at (photo's)......gone right to hell-----

And moderating will not change things much, all the good members with interesting, or basically good information DO NOT POST ANY LONGER---

I'll agree with Dale, I've had to take a break from the board for a few months at a time.



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Old 2/8/09, 12:47 AM
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Dale, Chris found a solution for this as well. If a moderator continues to delete posts (which sends them back into the unapproved que) and those posts are re-approved over and over by fellow members, the moderator becomes known as "statistically trigger happy" and will eventually lose his/her moderator status.

He's really thought this one out.
Who are the "Moderators"....I bet that would be a VERY interesting topic, since we don't have anything related to Inspecting Homes to talk about these last few months----
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Old 2/8/09, 12:48 AM
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It began with the 2008 Member of the Year, Barry Adair....and continues with Mr. Falko and those to follow.

Censorship will kill this board.
Yep.....no doubt Jim....!!
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