Certified Master Inspector

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Thanks guys for listening,

John, Brian, and Peter,
I am trying to make a point here and relize that I am not a Lone Ranger in doing it.

It is a matter of earning it in my book that matters and going to school for a CMI to me does not cut it, but on the other hand, providing the monies to belong to that designation is alright. Is it? Provide the initial 1000 hours without knowing that it has been done wrong for all this time, find yourself in court, find yourself in jeapordy, all comes with the territory. Unless you are firmly stable in your indeavors, and reliante on your experince, beware of the thing that can put you down, (bullsh#it, )

Becoming a CMI, yes would like it because a title to me without a college Education turns me on. I have worked a lot of years to example an equivilancy.
I think it should be the other way around.

Thanks guys you are great.

Marcel

Marcel, you do not earn a CMI, you buy it.
It's a marketing gimmick don't-ya-know.

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Marcel, you do not earn a CMI, you buy it.
It's a marketing gimmick don't-ya-know.

But Brian, Look at all of the positives.

1. It's a one time payment. Not yearly.
2. You receive the designation Certified Master Inspector. In an association you are simply a home inspector or certified home inspector, working member, candidate with logo use, or candidate with no logo use, etc.
3. No Continuing Education Requirements. Simply fulfill your state requirements and move on your merry way.
4. No yearly testing. In fact no testing. Prior membership in an association is not required.
5. You operate and abide by the highest sop's and coe's.

Let's face it. It's one heck of a deal. Why belong to an association? For less than two years of NACHI dues you get a lifetime membership.

I say go for it.....

[Nick Gromicko]

Most of our CMI applicants far exceed the 1,000 continuing education hours + number of inspections performed requirement by thousands. But one trend I've noticed about the upper crust of our industry... their ratio of continuing education hours to number of inspections is larger than the average inspector's. In other words, CMIs (despite not being required by law to take so much continuing education) still do. CMIs also charge more than the rest of us, and they get more inspection work. They've proven something I've suspected all along....

The most successful inspectors (the ones who have done many thousands of inspections and have outlived their competitors) charge more and take a lot of continuing education.

Success, high fees, and good training are correlated.


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[Nick Gromicko]

Brian, you are wrong again. Here are the CMI requirements. One cannot buy 1,000 fee paid inspections or continuing education hours or a criminal-free background.

1. Completing 1,000 fee-paid inspections or hours of inspection-related continuing education (combined) in their lifetime.
2. Abiding by the industry's toughest Code of Ethics.
3. Substantially following a Board approved Standards of Practice.
4. Submitting to a criminal background check.
5. Applying for Board certification by signing the affidavidt in front of a Notary.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Most of our CMI applicants far exceed the 1,000 continuing education hours + number of inspections performed requirement by thousands. .
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Somewhere we can verify this?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

I wonder are there two types of inspectors .

Those who are CMIs

And those who want to be CMIs?

I would be surprised if there any CMIs who are sorry they became a CMI.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Roy, I bet there are more non CMI's that are happier that they are not CMI's, than there are happy CMI's.
The correlation of happines of non CMI's, though not well documented, is universally understood.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Roy, I bet there are more non CMI's that are happier that they are not CMI's, than there are happy CMI's.
The correlation of happines of non CMI's, though not well documented, is universally understood.

Percentage wise I bet there are more CMIs that are happier that they are CMIs then NON CMIs .
I would think that 100% of the CMIs are happy .

I am sure that it is far from 100% of non CMIs who are happier not being a CMI.

I guess its the old story join now or Join later The choice is theirs.

Roy COOKE A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER . I am a 100%ER HAPPY CMI

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Brian, you are wrong again. Here are the CMI requirements. One cannot buy 1,000 fee paid inspections or continuing education hours or a criminal-free background.

1. Completing 1,000 fee-paid inspections or hours of inspection-related continuing education (combined) in their lifetime.
2. Abiding by the industry's toughest Code of Ethics.
3. Substantially following a Board approved Standards of Practice.
4. Submitting to a criminal background check.
5. Applying for Board certification by signing the affidavidt in front of a Notary.

One can too buy 1000 CEU's Nick. That seems to be the new business model of HI orgs and schools.

Didn't you give me a shirt at the ITA thing where I bought some CEU's???

[Nick Gromicko]

Whether an inspector has 1,000 inspections or 10,000 is not the point as in either case... he's made it. They are mopping the floor with their competition, year after year. The question for the rest of us is how? CMI answers this question as CMIs all have some things in common. CMIs charge more and have more continuing education (even more as a function of # of inspections) than the rest of us.

It is not the CMI that made these guys great, they had to be great to begin with, for years, to earn the CMI. They became great, IMHO, through education first (once you know your stuff you can charge for it) and higher fees (which CMI helps them get).

These guys are CMIs in my book even if they never apply for the professional designation... which is why I successfully fought against annual dues (CMI has no annual dues). Once a CMI, always a CMI.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Well when you put it like that Nick, I will not argue with you.

[Yuri Olhovsky]

Nick, can you answer my old question about CMI certificates? When they will be mailed out?

[John McKenna]

My Clients say they hire me because of the following points:

#1 - They like the Free 90 Day warranty offered.
#2 - They like the fact that they are hiring a CMI.
#3 - They like 25 years of construction exp. vs book knowledge.
#4 - They like my web site with all the NACHI packed info pages.
#5 - They like the fact that most Realtors don't like me.
#6 - They like my wife's honest nature on the phone - she is disarming.
#7 - They like the fact that I charge more because I give more.
#8 - They like it because I want them with me at the inspection.
#9 - They like the fact that I will do it on their time any day of the week.
#10- They like service, & recieving more than they expected (ie... Value)

You can call all of these marketing gimmicks or you can call them
"giving people what they really want"... they just did not understand it
until they called our company.

CMI's have been around long enough to learn a few things that go
along with CE and # of inspections.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

#5 - They like the fact that most Realtors don't like me.

WHAT............I thought I was the only one the agents don't like...lol.....man I feel better now.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by pabernathy

#5 - They like the fact that most Realtors don't like me.

WHAT............I thought I was the only one the agents don't like...lol.....man I feel better now.

It amazed me one day when I came to understand how many clients are
looking for the inspector that the Realtors do not like.

I once told a Lady that "most of the Realtors in the area don't put my
name on their list and some don't even like me"... when all of a sudden
she started yelling "YES, YES, YOUR THE ONE I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!!!"

She made all the rejection I suffered worth it.