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Old 10/3/06, 1:34 AM
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My Clients say they hire me because of the following points:

#1 - They like the Free 90 Day warranty offered.
#2 - They like the fact that they are hiring a CMI.
#3 - They like 25 years of construction exp. vs book knowledge.
#4 - They like my web site with all the NACHI packed info pages.
#5 - They like the fact that most Realtors don't like me.
#6 - They like my wife's honest nature on the phone - she is disarming.
#7 - They like the fact that I charge more because I give more.
#8 - They like it because I want them with me at the inspection.
#9 - They like the fact that I will do it on their time any day of the week.
#10- They like service, & recieving more than they expected (ie... Value)

You can call all of these marketing gimmicks or you can call them
"giving people what they really want"... they just did not understand it
until they called our company.

CMI's have been around long enough to learn a few things that go
along with CE and # of inspections.
Under promising and over delivering is a key to success which you seem to have mastered, I just may have to move over to the CMI side.



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Old 10/3/06, 1:37 AM
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Wow, John Bowman, Greg Bell and now Joe Burkeson! Been a big week for CMI.



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Old 10/4/06, 12:34 AM
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Well....it is a even BIGGER week....Yes....I have submitted my application for CMI...( been sitting in my van for 4 months )

I think of all the things I have spent money on in my career and stuff I have wasted money on....THIS is a good investment because it will only get better..bigger and with the proper support can possibly raise the standards of the industry.

I think after a long debate that the CMI now has teeth and I am proud to submit the application.



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Old 10/4/06, 1:26 AM
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Well....it is a even BIGGER week....Yes....I have submitted my application for CMI...( been sitting in my van for 4 months )

I think of all the things I have spent money on in my career and stuff I have wasted money on....THIS is a good investment because it will only get better..bigger and with the proper support can possibly raise the standards of the industry.

I think after a long debate that the CMI now has teeth and I am proud to submit the application.

Your the man... Paul.
CMI coming of age!!!



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Old 10/4/06, 12:56 PM
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How about a 1 time 50% discount for NACHI members?
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Old 10/4/06, 7:02 PM
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How about a 1 time 50% discount for NACHI members?
The CMI cost was offered at $175 at the start, while a lot of
people were mocking those of us who went for it. Nick
warned everyone the price and qualifications would go up
and will continue to go up in the future. Get it now while its still
at a good price and the qualification are still reasonable.



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Old 10/4/06, 9:53 PM
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Most of our CMI applicants far exceed the 1,000 continuing education hours + number of inspections performed requirement by thousands. But one trend I've noticed about the upper crust of our industry... their ratio of continuing education hours to number of inspections is larger than the average inspector's. In other words, CMIs (despite not being required by law to take so much continuing education) still do. CMIs also charge more than the rest of us, and they get more inspection work. They've proven something I've suspected all along....

The most successful inspectors (the ones who have done many thousands of inspections and have outlived their competitors) charge more and take a lot of continuing education.

Success, high fees, and good training are correlated.


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With all that said, is there a way to be acknowledge for what has been achieved through the school of hard Knox like quite a few members have gone through?? Meaning that not everyone has met your criteria per verbatim as defined?? Does the equivalency of experience match or equivalent to the mandated 1000 inspections.??

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Old 10/4/06, 10:07 PM
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With all that said, is there a way to be acknowledge for what has been achieved through the school of hard Knox like quite a few members have gone through?? Meaning that not everyone has met your criteria per verbatim as defined?? Does the equivalency of experience match or equivalent to the mandated 1000 inspections.??

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1,000 fee-paid inspections or hours of inspection-related continuing education (combined) in their lifetime
Marcel, you mean to tell me in all of your years in construction you have not gotten over 1000 hrs of training???? No hilty classes, no ladder safety, no DeWalt training, no Soldering instruction, no drafting classes.....etc ??????

Send them a check, you are a sure thing.
I doubt many are turned away. I would bet if you shill for Brinks that is probably worth 100 hours.
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Old 10/4/06, 10:28 PM
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Hi. Brian, you are a funny, ha. ha.



It would be nice to hear the interpetation from the horses mouth.

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Old 10/4/06, 10:42 PM
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I am qualified for CMI, but I think it is a totle **** up.

I can not believe that Gregg and Joe have joined this group...........All it tells me is that they only care about the biz and have no regard for the integrity of the inspector...................


To each his own.....
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Old 10/4/06, 10:45 PM
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Todd, that doesn't even make sense. Explain.



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Old 10/4/06, 10:46 PM
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Are you saying that CMI's requirements are too hard or too easy? Lost. How does CMI's requirements affect an inspector's integrity? Sometimes I can't follow what you are trying to say.



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Old 10/4/06, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Certified Master Inspector

Personally I think it is being taken WAY to personal......CMI is simply a designation...the inspector PERSONALLY upholds the standards and no title will change that.

The CMI in my opinion after giving it much debate.....is atleast a boiler point to grow from and again I am for anything that helps build awareness and focus on the industry.

I once had a guy say...believe in Buda, God, Alah or or Jahova....regardless of what you believe..if it helps you sleep at night, gives you something to believe in and creates a happy soul.......regardless of the belief it serves its purpose.

The CMI does not MAKE the inspector or provides it with more " Integrity"....the inspector who has PRIDE in their work and commit to a standard is what will raise the bar.....CMI is simply a tool too show a dedicated commitment.

Again....I have seen states with far LESS qualification requirements to be a Plumber, Electrician, HVAC or so on professional...and Roofers, BrickLayers and many OTHER trades dont even HAVE a measuring stick yet they are forming the industries.....who polices them....so it is all about 'Integrity" and that comes from within....NOT from a title.

The Title comes in when you KNOW you have "integirty" and would like additional TOOLS to promote your dedication and drive...so are you buying it......well not unless you can MEET the requirements and then......really.....think about this question......HOW is it harming the industry.....it becomes a choice.......but neither can CHANGE a bad inspector to a good inspector......someone who STINKS can get it...just like they can get state certified also......or licensed in other trades....I ran into some CRAPPY electricians today....I told them so.....just the way I am wihen i comes to neatness and so on.......so again having integrity in my mind has nothing to do with the CMI......



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Old 10/4/06, 11:24 PM
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Hi. Brian, you are a funny, ha. ha.



It would be nice to hear the interpetation from the horses mouth.

Marcel



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Old 10/4/06, 11:30 PM
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John, if you go way back in the archives, I was one of them fighting for this. I got sick of all the BS and quit following the thread. I know it's my own fault for not checking it out again until now, but hell you can't blame a guy for asking.
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