Certified Master Inspector already being used in Yellow Page ads.

[Richard L. Bennett]

10-4

And now lets a grant to build a computer simulator - an industry first

And I am not kidding - we talked about it a little at convention and I got positive buy in but could not find a good game programer to work for free. This could even make some $$ for NACHI and it could raise the bar a little higher plus make the profession sharper over all.

Will your thoughts



rlb

[gbeaumont]

Hi to all,

The only objective and verifiable measurement of these skills is by tracking education.

I some what agree with this, but IMHO someone with little time in the business could not have amassed enough knowledge over a year or so, so maybe an experience requirement should be part of the package.

Frankly though I would put greater store in a prequalifying exam be be concidered for CMI membership, and that each application should be looked at on its own merits.

Regards

Gerry

[Russell Spriggs]

I have yet to attend a CE class that has a final exam.

CE is given for the ESA / Pro-Lab course. It has a test and it is closed book.
Just a little tidbit.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by rspriggs

I have yet to attend a CE class that has a final exam.

CE is given for the ESA / Pro-Lab course. It has a test and it is closed book.
Just a little tidbit.

Yeah, with Pro-Lab it is probably graded on a curve.

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by rspriggs

I have yet to attend a CE class that has a final exam.

CE is given for the ESA / Pro-Lab course. It has a test and it is closed book.
Just a little tidbit.

I am strongly in favor of a closed book proctored test being a feature of any education, that is truely the only way of validating any learning experience.

Regards

Gerry

[Nick Gromicko]

Will Decker is correct when he says in his last post:

"The only objective and verifiable measurement of these skills is by tracking education"

-- I agree with that.
-- Nearly every government that licenses everything agrees with that.
-- The Master Inspector Certification Board agrees with that.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Will Decker is correct when he says in his last post:

"The only objective and verifiable measurement of these skills is by tracking education"

I agree with that.
Nearly every government that licenses everything agrees with that.
The Master Inspector Certification Board agrees with that.

If education were really the panacea you make it out to be then why are there still so many so-called educated people remaining in poverty? As a country we have thrown money at education like a crack-whore who hit the lottery and have little to show for it. The only thing that is truly verifiability measurable about educations is its cost, the results are not easily quantifiable.

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by jburkeson

As a country we have thrown money at education like a crack-whore who hit the lottery and have little to show for it.

Oh lord it has been a long day, and Joe made me laugh like hell.......

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Will Decker is correct when he says in his last post:

"The only objective and verifiable measurement of these skills is by tracking education"

-- I agree with that.
-- Nearly every government that licenses everything agrees with that.
-- The Master Inspector Certification Board agrees with that.

I must have had different life experiences Nick or have crossed paths with a different government. Most licenses I am aware of require some sort of practical exam and or verifiable experience/apprenticeship.

Driving License(Proctored exam-Practical Driving test)
AZ Home Inspection Certificate (30 tag along inspections-80 hrs ED-NHIE)
EMT License (Class time-ER Time-Proctored Exam)
Master Tradesman (Class time-Practical work experience-Exams)
Welding Inspector (8th grade education-Work Experience-Practical Exam)

The list is endless as to Certs/Licenses that require more than a check book and some class time to become qualified.

It would probably better Nick if you limited your posts the just the things you actually had some knowledge* of. Of course that would take a lot of the fun out of NACHI now wouldn't it.

Off now to get some time in with the Star Wars figures towards my Jedi Master Inspector License (who knew that light sabres double as moisture meters?)

*verifiable knowledge would be nice

[Nick Gromicko]

Brian, All of your examples use education. Thanks, although I don't think I neeeded the help.

[Nick Gromicko]

Brian, please list for us the entire list of states that have enacted home inspector licensing that DON'T use continuing education please.

Use several posts if the list is too long to fit on one post.

[Nick Gromicko]

And just to compare education to testing.... Brian... list for us all the licensed states (which all require regular continuing education)... that require annual testing.

I'll take either list... the list of states that have enacted licensing that DON'T require continuing educaion...

Or... the list of states that require annual testing.

Post BOTH lists for us and use extra posts if you can't fit both lists on one post.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Brian, All of your examples use education. Thanks, although I don't think I neeeded the help.

I must have had different life experiences Nick or have crossed paths with a different government. Most licenses I am aware of require some sort of practical exam and or verifiable experience/apprenticeship

Yes and no Nick, the point being. All those examples are of PRACTICAL HANDS ON EXPERIENCE.

Valiant attempt on your part though.

If you would like to discuss CEU's start a new thread.

I am sure your minions can provide you with any list you desire, really not germaine.

Now do not misconstrue what I am saying. If you want CMI for whatever reason, by all means have at it. You started it dammit, and it is what it is, a cute logo. And probably a new income stream for "EDUCATORS".

I am just not fond of inaccurate (politely speaking) analogies and or spin to make your point, I have family for that.

[Nick Gromicko]

I'm mercilessly sending in the calvary: http://www.realtor.org/resortsweb.ns...SPSCertApp.pdf

[rbunzel]

Nick,

You remind me of the salmon swimming upstream only to find a dam in its way. You never answered my questions... whats in it for you?


//Rick