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Old 1/10/06, 6:06 PM
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Where's Nick. He doesn't write or post in this manner.




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Old 1/10/06, 6:25 PM
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I hope that members email me with their thoughts. I would like to get a quick feel of how the members feel.

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Old 1/10/06, 9:23 PM
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I hope that members email me with their thoughts. I would like to get a quick feel of how the members feel.

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Screw the email, here is what I think...

Shelve the CMI it is a joke; anyone can pass our on line exam (and we have no way of verifying that the applicant actually took the exam), plunk down $298 and call themselves a Certified Home Inspector. As an example; you can be a disgraced, bankrupt hearing aid salesman bereft of any practical construction experience yesterday, and before the sun set today... you can become a brand spanking new NACHI Certified Home Inspector, its a proven fact and a disgrace.

Instead of CMI, work on creating meaningful membership requirements and enforcing the ones already on the books prior to promoting another meaningless non-recognized designation for newbie inspectors seeking a marketing edge.



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Why have a CMI?

Is there someone out there with 1000 inspection sunder their belt and 1000 hours of CE that really needs a few initials?

It's just a marketing gimmick. It isn't worth polarizing the membership and creating an internal class structure.

Of course, if we had a STRATEGIC ORGANIZATIONAL PLAN and we could see how this played an important role in our progress or development as an association, well then it would be easy to follow....
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Old 1/10/06, 10:12 PM
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I also cautioned you that such a plan would, potentially, allow any inspector in a geographic market, despite their dislike for NACHI, its founder, and membership, to waltz in, plop down $289 along with an inspection log, and use a NACHI designation to help destroy the businesses of otherwise qualified, loyal NACHI members.
On the surface is seems to me that you are admitting that our membership requirements are lax and easily circumvented, I do believe that you may have experienced an epiphany, pleased to see you have come to your senses.

Forget the CMI, focus your attention on bringing our membership requirements in line with industry standards, then you will really be accomplishing some good for both NACHI and our profession.



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Joe B., I often agree with you , but on this point we part company.

Let the industry do whatever they want. The opinion of other organizations is meaningless. Industry standard is a code word for control and I choose not to be controlled by those who run the other organizations.

The real strength of an organization is the membership - and ours is excellent. And there seems to be far less concern about bashing organizations or other inspectors here than there is elsewhere...and that aloone tells me that the "industry standards" are concerned about being threatened and their own bottom line.

Is there a lot I would love to improve about NACHI? Damn right there is, but the essence of NACHI should not be altered and that includes the ability for rookies to contribute and become an active part of the community.
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Old 1/10/06, 10:52 PM
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Joe & Joe I agree, I believe as time goes on and more states come online with licencing and regulation, asscoiation will be just that associations.

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Forget the CMI, focus your attention on bringing our membership requirements in line with industry standards, then you will really be accomplishing some good for both NACHI and our profession.
These (ASHI, NAHI, & NACHI) are just trade associations that offer its members recourses, and others in the industry recourses as well. It is how well we (NACHI) serve our industry and that is how we will be perceived by the industry we serve.

After that point it will just be what association will offer the most to its members, the industry it serves and the consumer. This is the desired industry perception that we need to work on as an association, bottom line do we want to be # 1 or # ??

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