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Old 12/3/06, 1:51 PM
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These guys that Mike Rowan is mentioning to run this new club (and select its members) are people who kneel every night before their certificates and other credentials and pray to their gods. They feel that those without them should not be allowed to live in a residential dwelling...and certainly never be able to inspect one.

Hooper has vowed to devote all of his efforts and resources into "ending NACHI" and, certainly, sees this as an opportunity toward that end.

Now, they want money from those they wish to bury to further their agenda.

You gotta hand it to these guys. They got some balls.
Jim,

Well at least you're not blinded by the light....
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Old 12/3/06, 1:56 PM
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oh now im blinded Dale.....geesh you are hard on a guy.:0



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Old 12/3/06, 2:15 PM
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I have six beautiful eyes looking at me right now to start putting up the Christmas decorations
Three of them are Hoopy's.



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Three of them are Hoopy's.
Brian Kelley gave you that one didn't he James?



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Old 12/3/06, 2:42 PM
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Here is an email I received from Jeff Hooper in March 2005:

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Nachi will allow anyone to be a member and will not do anything. Nachi and tricky Nick will do anything. They are a discrace to the professional inspection world. If you are a member, then you too are part of the problem as you enable this lieing association to exist. Wake up and smell the coffee. Get real.

I was a member of that piece of @#$% org once. Too bad for me.

Jeff G. Hooper
Yes, sir.....get them checkbooks out. Hoopy and Rowan want to make you a Star!!!

You know this is a legit email from Hoopy when every other word is spelled incorrectly.



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Old 12/3/06, 2:45 PM
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This one is my favorite....and keep in mind, this is the CMI president's first named choice to sit on a "peer review committee".

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It took me 5 years for one of my professional licenses and 4 for the other. An additional 5 years for all of my ICC and SBCCI certifications. I am so glad when I see someone leave that crap org. I cannot tell you. My 27 years against their 3. Bull****.

I have had enough of Nachi and I will do everything in my power to see to it they are not a part of Florida. Believe it or not, I am winning down here. I have convinces out state that they are the reason we need regulation.

I am on my way out of FABI as this is my last term. I do not care if I go down in flames. I will fight to protect the class act inspectors that cannot speak. I will fight to protect the real inspectors that care about their customers.

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Yep....something is smelling pretty bad with this CMI thing. Time to flush the toilet and let it spin its way back to Hooperville.



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Old 12/3/06, 2:53 PM
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If you were an honest man, you would admit that this conversation has been ongoing since last year when you were positioning yourself for your own position.

I can find the thread from the archives....

There is a strange smell beginning to form around this CMI thing. Use NACHI to get this thing off the ground then, once up and running, continue with the original agenda to discredit this association.
I have never heard Michael Rowan ever once speak against NACHI, through it all Michael has always supported and spoken well of NACHI and Nick.



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Old 12/3/06, 2:58 PM
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I have never heard Michael Rowan ever once speak against NACHI, through it all Michael has always supported and spoken well of NACHI and Nick.
I suppose if you have an employee like Hooper working for you at Inspection Depot, and knowing his position and history, you put him on this committee, you could continue to "support and speak well", no matter what your true agenda was. Right?

Besides, it's bad business for any vendor to "go on the record" against a potential customer. You don't go by what the vendor says...you go by what he does who he supports.



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Old 12/3/06, 3:10 PM
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I suppose if you have an employee like Hooper working for you at Inspection Depot...
I don't think Jeff was an employee, from what I know he was contracted to teach one course for Inspection Depot. Regardless, neither Michael or Inspection Depot should be held responsible for Jeff's political views anymore then Nick or NACHI would be held accountable for your political views.



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Old 12/3/06, 3:18 PM
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Regardless, neither Michael or Inspection Depot should be held responsible for Jeff's political views anymore then Nick or NACHI would be held accountable for your political views.
Hoopy's photo and bio did appear (and still may, as far as I know) under "Faculty" on an Inspection Depot web page.

I agree with you, Joe...except when Mike, knowing of Hoopy's position regarding NACHI and its members, wants to put him in a position of authority (peer review). Then he is, indeed, responsible for his selection and the views it would represent.

The fact that he would consider such a person is, to me, is a window into Mike's real thinking and - as he put it - "outline plan" for CMI. The jig is up.



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Old 12/3/06, 3:49 PM
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Default Re: CMI - The Outline Plan

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Here is an email I received from Jeff Hooper in March 2005:

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Originally Posted by hoppityhoopy
Nachi will allow anyone to be a member and will not do anything. Nachi and tricky Nick will do anything. They are a discrace to the professional inspection world. If you are a member, then you too are part of the problem as you enable this lieing association to exist. Wake up and smell the coffee. Get real.

I was a member of that piece of @#$% org once. Too bad for me.

Jeff G. Hooper




Yes, sir.....get them checkbooks out. Hoopy and Rowan want to make you a Star!!!

You know this is a legit email from Hoopy when every other word is spelled incorrectly.
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Old 12/3/06, 3:58 PM
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IMO, it is one thing to have a vendor as a member with full board access, etc. That is cool. We need them and can learn a lot from them.

Put a vendor in charge or otherwise in control of some aspect of the association and it is totally different ----and it is only reasonable to expect them to utilize that position to further the business they "vend".

Hell, I'd do the same thing. So would anyone else.

I think it is time to take a hard look at this. Rowan lobbied Nick to throw me out of the association last year when I raised similar issues. I'm still here.



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Old 12/3/06, 4:01 PM
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IMO, it is one thing to have a vendor as a member with full board access, etc. That is cool. We need them and can learn a lot from them.

Put a vendor in charge or otherwise in control of some aspect of the association and it is totally different ----and it is only reasonable to expect them to utilize that position to further the business they "vend".

Hell, I'd do the same thing. So would anyone else.

I think it is time to take a hard look at this. Rowan lobbied Nick to throw me out of the association last year when I raised similar issues. I'm still here.
Maybe I'll be next...oh well.

By the way, are these paid positions in the CMI program.
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Old 12/3/06, 4:22 PM
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If CMI was a NACHI entity, the designation would be free to members as originally stated. It is not.



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Old 12/3/06, 4:27 PM
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If CMI was a NACHI entity, the designation would be free to members as originally stated. It is not.
Correct, John.

Now, it looks as if it is developing into a competing organization that is recruiting players for key positions who hold the following views:

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It took me 5 years for one of my professional licenses and 4 for the other. An additional 5 years for all of my ICC and SBCCI certifications. I am so glad when I see someone leave that crap org. I cannot tell you. My 27 years against their 3. Bull****.

I have had enough of Nachi and I will do everything in my power to see to it they are not a part of Florida. Believe it or not, I am winning down here. I have convinces out state that they are the reason we need regulation.

I am on my way out of FABI as this is my last term. I do not care if I go down in flames. I will fight to protect the class act inspectors that cannot speak. I will fight to protect the real inspectors that care about their customers.

Jeff




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