CMI - The Outline Plan

[Brian E. Kelly]

Perhaps this discussion would be better served at the CMI BB.

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by wforsyth

What it is saying is that he will only give quotes and compare quotes against companies that are insured and conduct thorough inspections. He will not compare quotes with companies that aren't insured and who don't do thorough inspections.

It seems very clear to me.

Not worth the discussion Wendy... You can have the last word.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by rbennett

Right now there is a starting group of CMI's

I would think that this group should control the future of the program. I would think that we are a small enough group to VOTE on plans -- leaders -- policy - etc.

I would think that to link it to any other association would be wrong. If we have ANY bias for schools - mult inspector - associations -- political agenda etc. we will lose the true intent of the the CMI program

If any of the "Board -- team -- advisers" are linked to an agenda other than that of CMI in its true sense of the words we will become what the naysayers said on day one. Just a meaning less bunch of letters after our names.

With the change to the 1000 point system I still qualify and the inspectors that don't will soon make the 1000 if they stay in the profession.

I for one would like to see some "Advanced Inspector" programs start to grow with under the leadership of CMI. Right now the profession is filled with inspector 101 programs and it sure makes CE's a lot of repeats

This should not turn into an expense account for the leaders to eat, drink and make marry all year long. The $$ should be spent for the direct benefit of CMI.

Accoutability and desclosure to all CMI's should be the rule

rlb

While my Electrical Inspections is sometimes called Electrical 101.....it is FAR more advanced than normal....but I can most certainly DO a more advanced class if wanted.

[Blaine Wiley]

I have skimmed the thread and attempted to simply gain the information put forth, mostly by Mike Rowan.

Mike seems to be taking CMI down a road that people like me, Bowman, Beaumont, Sabados, ete. wished it to be on in the first place. By bringing on high standards, and people in the industry who behold them, even exemplify them, the program will attain the credibility it has lacked in the past, and needs to be a worthy designation.

If Mike brings these things to fruition, I would absolutely consider joining CMI. With meaning, it would no doubt help my company charge higher fees than the competition, and give a true marketing advantage.

Higher fees mean more money, more money means more fishing!

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by bwiley

I have skimmed the thread and attempted to simply gain the information put forth, mostly by Mike Rowan.

Mike seems to be taking CMI down a road that people like me, Bowman, Beaumont, Sabados, ete. wished it to be on in the first place.

As the president of this association, what do you plan to do to see this to fruition for NACHI members, Blaine? Why would you need to rearrange a few letters of the alphabet when you lead a 9200 man association already in place?

[mrowan]

Fellows

You are already on page 9!!!

No one told me I would have to hire another person to keep up with these comments so I can get a summary!!


Michael

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by jbushart

As the president of this association, what do you plan to do to see this to fruition for NACHI members, Blaine? Why would you need to rearrange a few letters of the alphabet when you lead a 9200 man association already in place?

You mean the President leads it?
I thought Nick led it.
Or does the Executive Director lead it?
Or do the members lead it?
What about the MAB?

I'm confused.

[Russel Ray]

To me there is a big, big difference between have trade association letters connected to my business, and having tons of initials after my name. I always get a kick out of the Realtors who have fifteen sets of initials behind their names, thinking how much richer they'd be if they had simply dedicated all that money and time to doing some good marketing.

I'll never have letters after my name unless the State of California or the County of San Diego, or all of the cities that I work in require it. Until then, it's NACHI all the way. Why? Because....

NACHI rocks!
NACHI rolls!
NACHI rules!

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by bwiley

I have skimmed the thread and attempted to simply gain the information put forth, mostly by Mike Rowan.

Mike seems to be taking CMI down a road that people like me, Bowman, Beaumont, Sabados, ete. wished it to be on in the first place. By bringing on high standards, and people in the industry who behold them, even exemplify them, the program will attain the credibility it has lacked in the past, and needs to be a worthy designation.

If Mike brings these things to fruition, I would absolutely consider joining CMI. With meaning, it would no doubt help my company charge higher fees than the competition, and give a true marketing advantage.

Higher fees mean more money, more money means more fishing!

Exactly Blaine,

The complete circle that Nick predicted a long time ago, has come to fruition. The program that a few of us first presented to Nick is back, only this time with others at the helm.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jbowman

only this time with others at the helm.

...ASHI and FABI. Who would have thought...?

I suppose that Brian Hannigan will run the CMI message board, just to be sure that things are edited properly.

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by mrowan

Fellows

You are already on page 9!!!

No one told me I would have to hire another person to keep up with these comments so I can get a summary!!


Michael

Michael!

Thank you so much and Catherine for all her hard work! I know this is a thread hijack, but just wanted to publicly thank you for such an awesome gift!

www.extrememakeoverwebedition.com

[Blaine Wiley]

Originally Posted by jbushart

As the president of this association, what do you plan to do to see this to fruition for NACHI members, Blaine? Why would you need to rearrange a few letters of the alphabet when you lead a 9200 man association already in place?

As you should know Jim, I am not the President of CMI, Mike Rowan is, therefore I have nothing to do with it, and it is not a part of NACHI, and has not been for some time.

I work with Nick and Bowman and others on NACHI items, not on CMI items. If asked, I certainly have no problem helping out on CMI either.

If the CMI designation has meaning, which Mike has indicated it will have, and certainly with some of the changes made in the last few months it already is on that road, then it will be much more than three little letters. When the designation has true meaning showing that the inspector that carries it has attained a level of knowledge and experience that is above the average inspector, it will be worth carrying, plain and simple.

If you can't see that as a marketing advantage for experienced inspectors, which you will be someday, then I don't know what to say.

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by jbushart

...ASHI and FABI. Who would have thought...?

I suppose that Brian Hannigan will run the CMI message board, just to be sure that things are edited properly.

I don't know.
We seem to be doing a good job of editing on the NACHI MB lately.
Maybe by the time everyone is finished editing, there won't be anything left!

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by bwiley

When the designation has true meaning showing that the inspector that carries it has attained a level of knowledge and experience that is above the average inspector

I can get my marketing to say that without any letters behind my name. In fact, it already does, and there are lots of little letters by lots of organizations that are already well-established here in California, e.g., CREIA and ASHI.

Perhaps instead of coming up with yet one more group of letters to compete with all the other groups of letters, why doesn't Nick just buy out ASHI, CREIA, SPREI, HIF, AAHI, NAHI, FREA, and whatever ones I've left out and just create one great big, huge, gigantic, monstrous trade association. Then we can adopt the letters that already are in use. And since there are so many letters already in use, we can redefine those letters for different membership levels.

[Blaine Wiley]

Originally Posted by rray

I can get my marketing to say that without any letters behind my name. In fact, it already does, and there are lots of little letters by lots of organizations that are already well-established here in California, e.g., CREIA and ASHI.

Perhaps instead of coming up with yet one more group of letters to compete with all the other groups of letters, why doesn't Nick just buy out ASHI, CREIA, SPREI, HIF, AAHI, NAHI, FREA, and whatever ones I've left out and just create one great big, huge, gigantic, monstrous trade association. Then we can adopt the letters that already are in use. And since there are so many letters already in use, we can redefine those letters for different membership levels.

And that works well for you Russel, and you have always had a great marketing prowess, which not all of us have. I live in a county of licensed inspectors, and the normal statement by realtors, insurance agents, etc. to their clients is "they're licensed, they're all the same". We all know that isn't true, but if they said "call Joe Inspector, he's licensed, and he's a master inspector"........well, I think you get the idea.

I see nothing wrong with receiving a designation for achievement that is well above the average.