Chicago War Zone?

[whandley]

Received this email today. For those of you in the Chicago area, is any of this accurate?


----- Original Message -----







CHICAGO


Body count. In the last six months 292 killed (murdered)
in Chicago, 221killed in Iraq.

Sens. Barack Obama & Dick Durbin, Rep. Jesse
Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader
Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan, Mayor Richard
Daley.....the leadership in Illinois .....all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago. Of course
they're all blaming each other. Can't blame Republicans,
they're aren't any!

State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in
country.

Chicago school system one of the worst in country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in
Illinois . He's gonna "fix" Washingtonpolitics?

[John McKenna]

Several cities in the U.S. are more violent than Bagdad

US Cities More Violent Than Iraqi Provinces


With a violent death rate that matches Iraq's, this New Orleans protester is looking for answers.

New Orleans residents march towards City Hall during a protest against violent crimes in New Orleans, Louisiana January 11, 2007. (Reuters)

Last night it was reported on FOX News that 80% of the violence and violent death in Iraq occurs in and around Baghdad.

Baghdad has a population somewhere around 7,000,000. In 2003 the governorate (or province) of Baghdad had a population estimated at 6,400,400.. Iraq has a population of 26,074,906.

What this means:

1-) First of all, Iraq the country has a lower violent death rate than many US cities have had.
From the 2006 numbers, BizzyBlog reported:

Iraq's violent death rate in 2006 was 56.49 per 100,000 residents.
Compare that to these US cities:

The murder rates were as follows (see related graph at UPDATE 2 below):

1. New York City - 1990; 30.7 (2,245 murders; population 7,322,000)
2. Washington, DC - 1991; 83.1 (482 murders; population 598,000 [1])
3. Gary, IN - 2005; 58.0
4. Detroit, MI - 1991; roughly 60
5. Compton, CA - 2005; 67.1
6. New Orleans, LA - 2006; 67.5 (154 murders; population 228,000 [2])
7. New Orleans, LA - 2004; 59.6 (275 murders; population 461,115 [3])
8. New Orleans, LA - 2003; 57.7
9. Atlanta, GA - 1973; 57.7 (271 murders; population 470,000 [1])
10. E. St. Louis, IL - 2004; 63.4

Hopeless quagmire, or not?

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...han-iraqi.html

[lkrausz]

It is pretty high here is the St.Louis area also. If there is a poor section that harbors unemployed, depressed workers it happens.

[relliott]

Hahaha
You non-locals are funny.

Since when do politics control gangs.

Our local police have the policy of letting them kill each other.

Nobody outside Chicago could possibly understand any more than I understand wanting to live on top of a Earth Quake fault line.

Many more die from lack of proper health care , so if you really care , come over and help us get National Health care.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by relliott

Many more die from lack of proper health care , so if you really care , come over and help us get National Health care.

And of course you can prove what you just said, right?

[ccurrins]

This is one reason Obama wants to put a little more control on guns.

[whandley]

Originally Posted by ccurrins

This is one reason Obama wants to put a little more control on guns.

Kind of like in Mexico. You know, where the drug gangs have more fire power than the police and military. Since when would taking a gun away from a law abiding citizen stop murder and mayhem? Gun control will happen right after alcohol prohibition becomes the law of the land for a second time....

[relliott]

Originally Posted by ccurrins

This is one reason Obama wants to put a little more control on guns.

Let the idiots kill one another.
It frees up the court dockets for more important things.

Like people with more than one parking ticket and restaurants serving Foie gras

[whandley]

Originally Posted by relliott

Hahaha
You non-locals are funny.

Since when do politics control gangs.

Our local police have the policy of letting them kill each other.

Nobody outside Chicago could possibly understand any more than I understand wanting to live on top of a Earth Quake fault line.

Many more die from lack of proper health care , so if you really care , come over and help us get National Health care.

Calm down Robert...

I didn't write that email. I recieved it from an Illinois resident who I'm pretty sure doesn't live on top of an earthquake fault. I was asking not so much about the murder statistic, but more so of the comments on the prison, school and sales tax items.

[ccurrins]

Originally Posted by whandley

Kind of like in Mexico. You know, where the drug gangs have more fire power than the police and military. Since when would taking a gun away from a law abiding citizen stop murder and mayhem? Gun control will happen right after alcohol prohibition becomes the law of the land for a second time....

Who said anything about taking them away from law abiding citizens? You need to quit reading spam.


I agree Bob, let the idiots kill each other, but it does waste a lot of police man hours, at least in my area.

[ccurrins]

Originally Posted by whandley

I was asking not so much about the murder statistic, but more so of the comments on the prison, school and sales tax items.

The school system is probably the worse one in the country, also the most expensive. They complain every year they need more money, and still have bad results. My brother teaches in a northwest suburb, a very high tax district, where they spend the same amount or less per student than the city of Chicago. His district, like many other suburbs, have MUCH better results.

[whandley]

Originally Posted by ccurrins

The school system is probably the worse one in the country, also the most expensive. They complain every year they need more money, and still have bad results. My brother teaches in a northwest suburb, a very high tax district, where they spend the same amount or less per student than the city of Chicago. His district, like many other suburbs, have MUCH better results.

California is broke. We just approved a 3.2 billion dollar increase for the school system. They will receive a whopping 58.1 billion dollars this year and still have a 24% state wide high school drop out rate. The tax and spend policies of the democrat controlled state legislature simply do not work. Now the dems are trying to change our state constitution to allow for a simple majority on any and all budget and spending issues. Our state currently requires two-thirds vote for budget and constitutional issues. If it changes, bye-bye california as we know it....

[George A. H. Luck]

"Many more die from lack of proper health care , so if you really care , come over and help us get National Health care."

You really want 'national health care'? You had better come to Canada to see what it is really like first.

My Wife has been hobbling around on a cane for a year and a half with multiple appointments for tests, X-rays, physio etc. etc. etc. The first doctor told her a year ago that she needs a new knee. She finally saw the surgeon last week and was told that it will be 9 - 12 months before she gets her replacement.


You really want national health care? Be careful what you wish for . . . . . .

[Randy D. Stufflebeem]

Originally Posted by whandley

Received this email today. For those of you in the Chicago area, is any of this accurate?


----- Original Message -----







CHICAGO


Body count. In the last six months 292 killed (murdered)
in Chicago, 221killed in Iraq.

Sens. Barack Obama & Dick Durbin, Rep. Jesse
Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader
Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan, Mayor Richard
Daley.....the leadership in Illinois .....all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago. Of course
they're all blaming each other. Can't blame Republicans,
they're aren't any!

State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in
country.

Chicago school system one of the worst in country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in
Illinois . He's gonna "fix" Washingtonpolitics?

Pretty much sums it up!

[nwagner]

Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in
country.

Talk about socking it to the consumers ...