Coming Soon www.certifiedpreownedlistings.com

[Greg Bell]

About the same as NACHI. Just send in a check to Nick and you can call yourself a master.

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by cdemsky

Blaine,
Yes, the public will equate this to a certified pre-owned vehicle. This would be the greatest compliment to the program and it's standards.

"If you are certifying that the home is the condition stated in the original inspection report, who is going to stand behind the house to certify it?"

Not every house will pass the rating system to become a CPOL. This will only help the market. Again, Realtors won't waste time on listing houses that won't sell and Sellers have the option, if their home does not pass, to make the necessary repairs, and have it reinspected. The seller may also choose to list the home "AS-IS" no repairs made, and adjust their listing price accordingly.

I hope this answers your question.
Catherine

I think you guys are dreaming.

If you talk to any realtor, which hopefully you have done, they will tell you "There is a buyer for every house". No matter what you won't find a realtor who won't ever not list a house. It doesn't cost them anything to list it. They just don't have to heavily promote it. It just sits there until somebody finds it.
"The best laid plans of mice and men" so to speak. Your ideas sound great hyped up around a table with lots of coffee thrown in for good measure, but until you get the actual program working and showing that it merits the excitement, you shouldn't ever advertise for inspectors to sign up for it.

What you should do is do the hard work to make this a success, then come back and show everyone that it is viable, and then offer it to them. But as it is, it's just another one of these programs that sound like snake oil and pyramid schemes, get everyone excited, the founders rich for awhile off the backs of the little guys, then when the idea won't float the game goes under and you all don't care because you have other well established businesses that you count on for support.

No, do the work, show everyone the money, then ask us to join. Don't ask us to show you the money so that you can fund your pet projects. This isn't just for you, this is for everyone who peddles their ideas to the NACHI membership. If you can't fund the idea yourself and then sell it, don't bother.

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by rbennett

Why does everyone think that we are mothers full of milk with no brains??

rlb

[Richard L. Bennett]

Wendy

I don't know what you are smoking but I want some

This is one of the few posts that you have ever made that is right on the $$

Thank you

I hope people read it for what you have said not what you have said in the past

Thank you again

(I still would not send a client to you)

rlb

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by rbennett

Wendy

I don't know what you are smoking but I want some

This is one of the few posts that you have ever made that is right on the $$

Thank you

I hope people read it for what you have said not what you have said in the past

Thank you again

(I still would send a client to you)

rlb

Thanks Richard.

(You don't mind if I keep this for posterity right? )

[Richard L. Bennett]

OK

See correction to

With word of NOT

rlb

[wforsyth]

LOL, I got it before you changed it.

Oh I saw it alright. I had to blink a few times. I thought you'd gone soft on me or something.

[Richard L. Bennett]

You got me

rlb

[wforsyth]

*smile*

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Homes are not being sold due to:

1. Trouble getting financing
2. Investors creating a false economy and driving the prices up
3. Economic concerns

Putting a sign in the front yard saying this home has been "Blessed by Inspection Despot" will not change any of that.

Essentially I agree, but today agents are overwhelmed with requests for listings, consequently this program may help in sifting the wheat from the chaff in regards to helping agents to select the better (fewer defects) homes to get involved with.

I work closely with about twenty-five Realtors in my market (mostly buyers agents) I may try to sell this concept on my own to listing agents who are trying to select the best listings, still at best it appears to be a limited product with a very short shelf life. Once things return to normal I would expect that pre-listing inspections will go the way of the dodo only because no matter how good the inspection and subsequent disclosure is performed savvy buyers will still continue to want to have a certified home inspection performed by the inspector of their choice which will hopefully be me. My personal ethics won't allow for performing pre-sale inspections on homes I performed pre-listing inspections on.

It appears that the real danger is that as far as reputation goes there is way more liability on the home inspector for a poor pre-listing inspection than on a poor pre-sale inspection. When you screw up with a buyer only a handful of folks learn of your mistake, but when you make that same mistake with a seller on a pre-listing inspection the whole community may learn of your ineptitude so tread lightly and be very thorough.

[John McKenna]

Dear Home Inspector,

Here is a chance of a life time. All you have to do is give these
houses a passing score (don't fail too many, or your not part
of the program anymore).

We will tell you how to score the house and put our limitations
on how you do your inspection. We're just here to help you.

We want you to be liable for every latent defect you can't see
and stand good for all future repairs and law suites. Your rates
need to be low enough to participate. BTW, make sure you
are fully insured and bonded, you'll need it.

The Realtor will call you, don't call us. We just need you
to stand good for all the repairs, and law suites that
come up after the sale.

When the problems show up, please understand that
is your department, not ours. We didn't certify anything,
you did.

The Realtors are our primary concern, because they
drive the repeat business on this whole scheme, so
don't make them upset.

When we are through with you, we will throw you away
and find another master idiot to take your place.

This is an exciting time for home inspectors and we feel
that you are so lucky to have us help you.

Yours truly,
Mr Screw.

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Essentially I agree, but today agents are overwhelmed with requests for listings, consequently this program may help in sifting the wheat from the chaff in regards to helping agents to select the better (fewer defects) homes to get involved with.

I work closely with about twenty-five Realtors in my market (mostly buyers agents) I may try to sell this concept on my own to listing agents who are trying to select the best listings, still at best it appears to be a limited product with a very short shelf life. Once things return to normal I would expect that pre-listing inspections will go the way of the dodo only because no matter how good the inspection and subsequent disclosure is performed savvy buyers will still continue to want to have a certified home inspection performed by the inspector of their choice which will hopefully be me. My personal ethics won't allow for performing pre-sale inspections on homes I performed pre-listing inspections on.

It appears that the real danger is that as far as reputation goes there is way more liability on the home inspector for a poor pre-listing inspection than on a poor pre-sale inspection. When you screw up with a buyer only a handful of folks learn of your mistake, but when you make that same mistake with a seller on a pre-listing inspection the whole community may learn of your ineptitude so tread lightly and be very thorough.

That's the thing though, they don't turn down listings. They just put them in certain categories. Their premiere listings they put in the realty books, their so-so listings, go in newspapers and magazines, their blah listings go in the office for walk ins. You won't sell this idea if they have to do much work or pay for it, and if an inspector has to pay for it, they're a sucker to do it.

ID should pay us for the priviledge of getting our labor and information. Period. If they want to use us as a database or whatever, then they should be the ones to shell out, not make us the shell.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Nick had explained the certified homes in a nother thread. We are not the ones that are certifying them. The seller will be certifying that all the major defects are repaired. Its not on us to certify them

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

Dear Home Inspector,

Here is a chance of a life time. All you have to do is give these
houses a passing score (don't fail too many, or your not part
of the program anymore).

We will tell you how to score the house and put our limitations
on how you do your inspection. We're just here to help you.

We want you to be liable for every latent defect you can't see
and stand good for all future repairs and law suites. Your rates
need to be low enough to participate. BTW, make sure you
are fully insured and bonded, you'll need it.

The Realtor will call you, don't call us. We just need you
to stand good for all the repairs, and law suites that
come up after the sale.

When the problems show up, please understand that
is your department, not ours. We didn't certify anything,
you did.

The Realtors are our primary concern, because they
drive the repeat business on this whole scheme, so
don't make them upset.

When we are through with you, we will throw you away
and find another master idiot to take your place.

This is an exciting time for home inspectors and we feel
that you are so lucky to have us help you.

Yours truly,
Mr Screw.

You don't know how close to the truth you are.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by hvalenzano

Nick had explained the certified homes in a nother thread. We are not the ones that are certifying them. The seller will be certifying that all the major defects are repaired. Its not on us to certify them

That may be Nicks version of it, but not Rowans. Read post #16.

"Yes, the public will equate this to a certified pre-owned vehicle. This would
be the greatest compliment to the program and it's standards.

"If you are certifying that the home is the condition stated in the original
inspection report, who is going to stand behind the house to certify it?"

I don't know how many compliments like this I can take...