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Old 9/19/06, 6:37 PM
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Default Re: Desperate ASHI inspectors, now offering to inspect for free.

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Imagine YOU ARE THE BUYER...

Your Realtor chooses the Repair company's Inspector for you.
(your dead meat already)
Buyer?....their talking about sellers who want to sell their home.

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The Inspector and the Realtor encourage you to use the
Reapair company for the things that need fixin.
(your being fed to the Lions now)

The Repair company enjoys the benefits of the Inspector
and the Realtor persuading you to spend your money
on the Repairs.
(many buyers just go with the flow with those they trust)
I didn't read anything about Realtors here or inspectors affiliated with Realtors.

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The temptation for this un-holy alliance to work together
and pull together is huge. Eveyone wins but one...

The Buyer (YOU) are the guy outside the loop and
everyone else keeps telling you to "trust them", all
the while they have a pre-arranged agreement to
do each other a favor.

The greedy Buyer will be suduced into this trap
because he told it's a 'FREE INSPECTION".
I'll have to re-read the article, I don't remember buyers involved.


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The Repair company, The Realtor, and The Inspctor
all know the pay off will come in the long run because
people are greedy for something FREE.

The principle in running a scam is to appeal to the
suckers lust.

They are in business to remodel homes so folks can sell them, from what I read.

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Don't tell me it will not happen in this type of
set up... it will.

And you can say "I don't care"... because thats all
you can say... until its YOU who gets slaughtered.
Slaughtered?...for inspecting the home, I don't think so!

I go through Realtors just as quick as Inspectors and Realtors go out of business here, its a cycle. When a Realtor doesn't like a report of mine you think they are going to call me again, hell no their not, and I could care less.

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Ethics don't matter until its your *****ets.
Assets? What do assets have to do with doing an inspection like any other inspection, not be partial to anyone, just inspect the house and be paid.

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BTW... what do you teach your children?
Ethics don't matter?


Ethics have nothing to do with inspecting every property like you were working for your own family, simply inspecting without being partial to any contractor or Realtor. Why is that so hard to understand?

And by the way, don't mention my children, since they or yours are not in this conversation.
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Old 9/19/06, 6:41 PM
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If your toes are being stepped on, maybe its time to move.
All the best Dale and happy inspecting.
Funny, I was going to tell you just about the same thing.....
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Old 9/19/06, 7:18 PM
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Here is a link to some fun stupid laws.
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/missouri/




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Old 9/19/06, 7:27 PM
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Here is a link to some fun stupid laws.
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/missouri/
"It shall be unlawful to provide beer or other intoxicants to elephants."

I think this is one of the reasons why the Republican National Convention can no longer be held here.
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Old 9/19/06, 7:44 PM
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"It shall be unlawful to provide beer or other intoxicants to elephants."

I think this is one of the reasons why the Republican National Convention can no longer be held here.
ROFLMAO!!!

And I'm a Republican.
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Old 9/20/06, 12:23 AM
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I stand corrected.
The article is talking about Sellers hiring a home inspector.

The principle still applies.

If the seller is offered a free inspection with a hook in it
then there is an ethical problem.

The repair company uses inspectors to "get their foot in
the door". The repair company uses realtors to promote
the idea to the seller. The front men are feeding profit
to the shadow company.

The whole idea is to offer something for free so that
that the inspector will get some business for the
repair company.

The inspector has a motive to please the one paying
him and providing repeat business. The seller is
placing his trust in someone who is looking to exploit
his trust.

The repair company will want the inspector who brings
him more business. This will lead the repair company
to work only with inspectors who cooperate.

The realtor will encourage the seller to get something
for free and is part of the pre-arranged plan for the
profit of other people.

The seller will recieve slanted advise.

To think none of this will happen in the arrangement
is intellectually dishonest.

In Texas, an inspector cannot inspect a house in order
to channel repair work to a repair company. There
is a huge fine for that and you will loose your license.

A realtor cannot make arrangements to entice a
client into something that will cause kick backs for
someone else. The law will punish such unethical
behavior.

An inspector cannot recieve payment from the same
person who profits from the inspection report with
a pre-arranged agreement to do this.

It breeds fraud and this is why laws were made
to stop this.

Example:
Your roof needs replaced... Oh BTW my brother
in law does roof installations and he is the one
paying me to generate a report that will lead
you to use his services.

Even if you say you will be honest... you would
still be in relationship with a pre-arranged agreement
to promote your brother in laws roofing business
by recommending roofing repairs on your report.

Next we will be wearing T-shirts with ads about
our brother in laws roofing company, as we
recommend roof repairs on our report.



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Old 9/20/06, 9:59 AM
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Default Re: Desperate ASHI inspectors, now offering to inspect for free.

This suspicious type of business will not make it very far for several reasons.

1. The sellers will suspect a biased inspection will take place.

2. Sellers are done with the house, they do not want to spend money or have the trouble of supervising repairs which are often done incorrectly.

3. Profits from the repairs will not be enough to pay the inspector and the repair people adequately.

4. One unhappy seller and this will be all over the news as a scam.

I would suggest any inspector doing this to make sure their state allows it and any association ethics are followed and most important: Make sure to state in the report which items need immediate repair and which ones are just cosmetic. For example, a door frame that has some slight deterioration on a 40 year old house that is in average shape. Does it really need repair?
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Old 9/20/06, 5:17 PM
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I asked ASHI if this was fine and dandy, they said NO IT ISN'T.......

So much for that idea.....
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Old 9/20/06, 5:33 PM
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I asked ASHI if this was fine and dandy, they said NO IT ISN'T.......

So much for that idea.....
I think we had already established that. Do they plan to do anything about it, though?
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Old 9/20/06, 6:06 PM
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I think we had already established that. Do they plan to do anything about it, though?
What do you mean "we" already established that....

I'll have to tell them to disregard my application now..... ...and go back to inspecting skyscrapers.....

To answer your question Jim, yes they are!.....
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Old 9/20/06, 6:10 PM
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To answer your question Jim, yes they are!.....
Cool.
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Old 9/20/06, 6:11 PM
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Call me cRaZy ...but something here doesn't add up.



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Old 9/20/06, 6:35 PM
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Call me cRaZy ...but something here doesn't add up.
Okay...if you insist. Here goes. You're crazy. Now....what?
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