Did anyone see the..

[Kenneth Lott]

news story on cnn last night about the border crossing in minnesota? it is an unmanned crossing with a camera phone to report that you are entering the country, most locals admitted that they do not even stop most of the time and to make it worse a border agent confessed to the same thing. the reasoning is that the crossing is so remote most terrorist don't even know about it or where it is. but thanks to cnn that will no longer be true. can you believe this? but i will feel better when they finish the 700 mile wall won't you?

[Michael Larson]

I hope Canada has a better handle on who enters their country than we do here.

[Peter C. Russell]

Originally Posted by klott

news story on cnn last night about the border crossing in minnesota? it is an unmanned crossing with a camera phone to report that you are entering the country, most locals admitted that they do not even stop most of the time and to make it worse a border agent confessed to the same thing. the reasoning is that the crossing is so remote most terrorist don't even know about it or where it is. but thanks to cnn that will no longer be true. can you believe this? but i will feel better when they finish the 700 mile wall won't you?

Hey Ken, I think that 700 mile fence was planned a little further south.

[escanlan]

Kenneth,

The US Government chooses not to spend our tax dollars to protect the citizens of this country. Instead those tax dollars are used to support big business initiatives and the many less than ethical politicians.

Grant it your story is a scary one of an unmanned crossing ripe for terrorist entry. But here is another example of our tax dollars at work. The border crossing in El Paso was modified to allow a fast lane for Mexican children to quickly cross into the US to attend US public schools.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.1778bde.html

This is another example of the failure of our own government!!

[Richard L. Bennett]

We are protecting our selves against KIDS -- give me a break

Correction the local school board is to check addresses

This is not a US government problem it is a local elected school board problem

Give us a break -- how many kids are we giving a quality education to at what cost per student??

One school bus costs more money

These kids will probably be US tax payers and voters in a few years -- a good education is not a problem




rlb

[Kenneth Lott]

Originally Posted by mlarson

I hope Canada has a better handle on who enters their country than we do here.

they did not even have a shack on their side, it scares me to think that they spend millions at other places and just ignore problems like this. a border is a border no matter where it is, and i think a place like the one on cnn is more dangerous than any of the main crossings. there were no x-ray machines or nuclear detection devices. not even a stinking $10 an hour security guard!

[escanlan]

Originally Posted by rbennett

We are protecting our selves against KIDS -- give me a break

Correction the local school board is to check addresses

This is not a US government problem it is a local elected school board problem

Give us a break -- how many kids are we giving a quality education to at what cost per student??

One school bus costs more money

These kids will probably be US tax payers and voters in a few years -- a good education is not a problem




rlb

Richard,

We are protecting our selves against KIDS -- give me a break

It is not the children that are a threat, nor was this reference meant to infer that. The threat is the significant erosion of our own infrastructure from the failure of the Federal Government to fulfill its own responsibilities.

Correction the local school board is to check addresses

Before you make a correction, take a little initiative to research the issue. Obviously you are unable to obtain the full picture from this one article. NBC news continuously runs a series called "Who's America?". This one item was the full topic on one evening's broadcast. Within that broadcast they did interview the local school district personnel. The local school district is doing all it can to weed these people out short of surveillance on the border crossing to see which children are comming across. However, many are resorting to fraud to make sure their children are placed in US public schools.

This is not a US government problem it is a local elected school board problem

If I understand you correctly, you are stating that you believe it is quite alright for the US Government, who runs the border crossings, to construct a special addition to the border crossing (which this article did not discuss but the NBC news reports did) to allow foreign citizens quickly into this country so they can bring non resident children to school fraudulently?

Actually you are very wrong here!! The US Government has created this problem for the local school board and the taxpayers whose property taxes are used to fund those schools. At these special border crossings (there is more than one) these children with their supposed parents are quickly waived through with little checking of papers nor ID's. They have been instructed not to delay them so that these children make it to school on time.

If you take just one minute to think there is a very simple solution to significantly reduce this problem. Do not have a special crossing for them. Make them stand in line just like everyone else and wait extensive amounts of time to cross. Eventually these children will be discovered by the school board due to consistent tardiness and absences. Not only will the school board find them easier but they will have a valid reason to question them.

Give us a break -- how many kids are we giving a quality education to at what cost per student??

Instead of you creating a flaming post with absolutely no thought process behind it I would suggest you research the answer to your own question. That is if you even care about your own country?

One school bus costs more money

More money than what? That was an unqualified statement.

These kids will probably be US tax payers and voters in a few years -- a good education is not a problem

This is a classic display of apathy! It is so unfortunate that the US people show so much apathy about any major issue occurring today. The trend appears to be "If it does not affect me why should I care?". Unfortunately by the time it does affect them it is much to late to do anything about it!

The problem we face today are not illegal immigrants, for the most part, but instead it is illegal immigration. It is the Federal Governments responsibility to control illegal immigration and not the local governments. Illegal immigration is a crime. Do you think we should allow a crime to go unpunished? If so then why do we bother prosecuting legal citizens and legal immigrants for violating laws here?

[Kenneth Lott]

Originally Posted by escanlan

Kenneth,

The US Government chooses not to spend our tax dollars to protect the citizens of this country. Instead those tax dollars are used to support big business initiatives and the many less than ethical politicians.

Grant it your story is a scary one of an unmanned crossing ripe for terrorist entry. But here is another example of our tax dollars at work. The border crossing in El Paso was modified to allow a fast lane for Mexican children to quickly cross into the US to attend US public schools.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.1778bde.html

This is another example of the failure of our own government!!

mexican kids do not scare me, muslim fanatics with nukes do, i do not want to watch what used to be minneapolis or chicago smoldering in a pile while someone plays lee greenwood songs. know what i mean.

[escanlan]

Originally Posted by klott

news story on cnn last night about the border crossing in minnesota? it is an unmanned crossing with a camera phone to report that you are entering the country, most locals admitted that they do not even stop most of the time and to make it worse a border agent confessed to the same thing. the reasoning is that the crossing is so remote most terrorist don't even know about it or where it is. but thanks to cnn that will no longer be true. can you believe this? but i will feel better when they finish the 700 mile wall won't you?

Originally Posted by klott

mexican kids do not scare me, muslim fanatics with nukes do, i do not want to watch what used to be minneapolis or chicago smoldering in a pile while someone plays lee greenwood songs. know what i mean.

Kenneth,

The 700 miles of fence you speak of is along the Mexico/US border. The estimate made by the Congressional Budget Office for its cost was less than $3 Billion ( http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,225337,00.html ). Since the start of the Iraq war the US has spent nearly one trillion dollars and over 3000 servicemen and women's lives in a conflict that not only has no clear end but one our government should never have initiated.

At least with the school children crossing the border they hopefully are not able to sneak in the nukes you are referring to. The US/Mexican border has long been a smuggling grounds, and very successful one at that!! There is an estimated 10+ million illegal aliens in this country now with the vast majority of them coming across the US/Mexican border. Mexican nationals are not the only ones coming across that border. If it is that easy to sneak in so many illegal aliens then how are we to believe that we are safe from the very thing you fear?

You can read a great deal about many of these issues at The Center For Immigration Studies ( http://www.cis.org/ ). Before you think this is a crackpot group of people they do make reference to valid studies, articles, government information sites, etc.

Food for thought! How much good could our government have done right here in our own country with 1 trillion dollars??

[Richard L. Bennett]

Emmanuel

Let me think a little on your post

I still think that you are wrong but you live in TX and I live in FL where we are very happy to to have the boys and girls from the across the border (oranges and construction)

later

rlb

[Stephen W. Stanczyk]

Originally Posted by klott

...the reasoning is that the crossing is so remote most terrorist don't even know about it or where it is. but thanks to cnn that will no longer be true. can you believe this? but i will feel better when they finish the 700 mile wall won't you?

What is the big deal. I have spent many years along the Northern borders of Washington, Idaho, Montana and Canada on fishing and hunting trips. No border crossings. In fact most of the time when we were in the remote areas (before gps) around the Kootenai River, the Pend Oreille River or Lake Roosevelt, we didn't know if we were in the US or Canada.

If the terrorists are going to come across with WMD, they aren't going to come in at a border crossing, no matter how remote.

[relliott]

We always need an enemy in this country.

One trillion dollars is enough for heath care.You know if we invaded Mexico the war would have been over in a couple days with everyone cheering in the streets.cold war ,drug war,and terrorist war.War and rumors of war.

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by sstanczyk

What is the big deal. I have spent many years along the Northern borders of Washington, Idaho, Montana and Canada on fishing and hunting trips. No border crossings. In fact most of the time when we were in the remote areas (before gps) around the Kootenai River, the Pend Oreille River or Lake Roosevelt, we didn't know if we were in the US or Canada.

If the terrorists are going to come across with WMD, they aren't going to come in at a border crossing, no matter how remote.

Wrong. That's most likely exactly where they'll come in. Because of exactly your sentiments here.

CNN are such subversive idiots! Showing something like that on TV should be considered high treason! So stupid to give away a location like that, and could be miscontrued as deliberate in my opinion.

[Kenneth Lott]

Originally Posted by escanlan

Kenneth,

The 700 miles of fence you speak of is along the Mexico/US border. The estimate made by the Congressional Budget Office for its cost was less than $3 Billion ( http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,225337,00.html ). Since the start of the Iraq war the US has spent nearly one trillion dollars and over 3000 servicemen and women's lives in a conflict that not only has no clear end but one our government should never have initiated. i was being sarcastic about the 700 mile fence.

At least with the school children crossing the border they hopefully are not able to sneak in the nukes you are referring to. The US/Mexican border has long been a smuggling grounds, and very successful one at that!! There is an estimated 10+ million illegal aliens in this country now with the vast majority of them coming across the US/Mexican border. Mexican nationals are not the only ones coming across that border. If it is that easy to sneak in so many illegal aliens then how are we to believe that we are safe from the very thing you fear? i don't believe we're safe, but i do think we are safer and we could do better.

You can read a great deal about many of these issues at The Center For Immigration Studies ( http://www.cis.org/ ). Before you think this is a crackpot group of people they do make reference to valid studies, articles, government information sites, etc.

Food for thought! How much good could our government have done right here in our own country with 1 trillion dollars??

please don't talk about waste when it comes to the war, would you rather fight them over there or in texas? you see how they blow up their own, do you think they would fight fair over here? Food for thought! How much damage do you think a IED could do in D.C., N.Y. or Dallas? How many kids would we see being beheaded on cnn every night? How many trillions do you think it would cost us to fight them here over a 4 year period? (keeping in mind how much better our infrastructure is in the statescompared to the middle east) Do you think Saddam should have been allowed to kill millions more of his own people?

[rcooke]

Some times many get excited when they do not have the full information . There are towns in Vermont and Main that have homes 1/2 in Canada and the other half in the USA. People by their gas in the USA and go to school in Canada. I think their is a town in Washington they have they have to drive the school bus every day into Canada and back to washington to take the kids to schools . Lots of farms in the prairies straddle the border. Some I think share fire departments.