The Evolutionary Origin of Mammals’ Hair Is Found in Reptile Claws

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Mikey I am the most pragmatic person you will ever meet, I have absolutely no preconceived notions whatsoever. If something works I keep it and apply it and if not I discard it, very simple.

Am I to surmise from that that "religion" didn't "work" for you?

That is simple idolatry in that you created a god of your own making who didn't perform to your liking.

So, back to your statement, just because you can't provide tangible proof of your claim somehow makes me wrong, are you really able to see just how poor your logic is?

And may I point out that you can't provide proof tangible or otherwise?
What was that about logic again?

Tell me, do you always blame other people when things in your world don't work out as you planned? That my friend is a huge personality flaw that doesn't take any faith whatsoever to see.

Who am I blaming?

Is it not you who is blaming God for not working out for you?

No answers to the rest?

Where did the universe come from Joe?

From nothing or from a creative being with intelligence?

Because you can't prove either both are equally possible except for one thing:

ID is more consistent with what we observe than to imagine the incredible complexity of the creation from the smallest cell to the expanse of the known universe just happened by chance.

It's incredibly more difficult to believe that than to believe a monkey at a keyboard could by random chance produce the Encyclopedia Britannica.

You have faith but your faith is random chance's ability to produce the universe.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Mikey, Let's take the time to try and understand one another. I am perfectly content with not knowing all the answers to the universe regarding where we came from and what happens to us (if anything) when we die.

I try to live each day extracting as much life out of it as possible while always attempting to expand the boundaries of liberty and freedom. This style of living (game) does not require me to daily conjure up some hocus-pocus deity that must be fed faith to exist.

Furthermore, we would never be having this conversation if it wasn't for you & people like you who feel it is their duty to condemn me, my way of life and my personal views. Were you content to keep your religion to yourself, conversations like this would never arise, but because I view you & your religion as a threat to my game of expanding freedom & liberty we constantly bunk heads.

Game on?

[Michael Larson]

Got it Joey.

You have no idea how to answer.

I do not condemn you. Not my right or responsibility.

That you don't believe in a manner consistent with avoiding the condemnation explained in the bible and that unbelievers deserve is entirely your own doing.

That's just the cold hard truth from a biblical perspective.

[ldapkus]

Haggard's back

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Because you can't prove either both are equally possible...

Now your starting to come around. Beautiful logic Micheal. You might not want to think that way too much though because God may not be very happy.

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Mikey, Let's take the time to try and understand one another. I am perfectly content with not knowing all the answers to the universe regarding where we came from and what happens to us (if anything) when we die.

I try to live each day extracting as much life out of it as possible while always attempting to expand the boundaries of liberty and freedom. This style of living (game) does not require me to daily conjure up some hocus-pocus deity that must be fed faith to exist.

Furthermore, we would never be having this conversation if it wasn't for you & people like you who feel it is their duty to condemn me, my way of life and my personal views. Were you content to keep your religion to yourself, conversations like this would never arise, but because I view you & your religion as a threat to my game of expanding freedom & liberty we constantly bunk heads.

Game on?

Very well put.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by ldapkus

Haggard's back

With a new hit too!

Ted Haggard Is Completely Heterosexual

I heard he put the men in amen!

Don't forget his first hit!

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by ldapkus

Haggard's back

This is a very telling statement: "Yet if Haggard stumbles again as a Christian speaker, it could crush those he inspired". If the Gospel were such a no-brainer to accept and live by, why would the Church be so concerned about losing members? Shouldn't everyone flock to the Church and be unshakable in their faith, as dangerous as that is? Why does it take such convincing and encouragement week in, week out? That alone should be very telling of the truth.

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by mlarson

I'm putting my self on a three day suspension from you for responding to your ill tempered and illogical silliness.

As soon as your back from your Kevin sabbatical, let's see if I can be nothing but logical here, no fluff.

Science is defined as: Science (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge" or "knowing") is the effort to discover, and increase human understanding of how the physical world works. Through controlled methods, scientists use observable physical evidence of natural phenomena to collect data, and analyze this information to explain how things work. Such methods include experimentation that tries to simulate natural phenomena under controlled conditions and thought experiments. Knowledge in science is gained through research.

I'll leave it at that and ask one question: Does intelligent design have any "observable physical evidence" of which they can use "to explain how things work".

If the answer is yes, please provide one, just one piece of evidence.

If the answer is no, we agree ID should not be in a SCIENCE classroom.

[kpierce]

Also, lets not forget, since you're so keen on what the courts have determined, that ID being taught in the public science classroom has been deemed unconstitutional by the supreme court. Is that telling of something, hmm?