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Old 1/12/07, 12:47 AM
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Q. In the installation of any gas appliance, such as a water heater or furnace, what takes precedence over any local or national codes?
First member to answer this question substantially correct and to the satisfaction of NCE head Tom Rausch wins a NACHI Beam www.nachi.org/nachibeam.htm



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Manufacturer's recommendations.



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Christopher... no. Keep trying.



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Joe Hagarty wins!



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Manufacturers Installation instructions.




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Joe, even though I'm seeing you next week, I'm going to ship it to you so I don't have to bring it on the plane.

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Manufacturers installation requirements
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Cool!!!!



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Too late...keep 'um coming!
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Joe is incorrect. Stepehn is correct

Look at the wording.
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Close enough. Joe wins.



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Q. In the installation of any gas appliance, such as a water heater or furnace, what takes precedence over any local or national codes?
First member to answer this question substantially correct and to the satisfaction of NCE head Tom Rausch wins a NACHI Beam www.nachi.org/nachibeam.htm

PMII - Per Manufacturers Installation Instructions. To be exact. WooHoo!



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PMII - Per Manufacturers Installation Instructions. To be exact. WooHoo!
You okay Peter?
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Default Re: First to answer this question substantially correct wins a NACHI Beam. $109 value.

ALWAYS this keep in mind.

How many times have you confronted the arugement, "But, it 'substantually complies with code" (meaning local AHJ code)?

Hold their feet to the fire!

When was the last time that a local AHJ assumed any liability for their decisions?

Manufacturer's installation instructions ALWAYS supercede local AHJ codes.

The legal reason, according to my attorney, is that if the local AHJ says it's OK, over the manufacturer, the local AHJ automatically assumes ALL liability is they are wrong.

I have a standard form. If the code inspector says it's OK (when the manufacturer says not. Gotta have the manuals, remember.) just present this form and have the AHJ inspector sign it. By doing so (as the legal agent of the AHJ), they are assuming all the liability for damage or personal injury.

Whanna bet they won't sign?

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Close enough. Joe wins.
Nick,

Are you giving hand grenades away? Close enough? There is a big difference.

I recommend you do it this way. This means not required. OR.

I require you do it this way. Enough said.




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