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Old 10/30/06, 6:52 PM
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He's coming to Fort Bend County today. Grandma is taking my 11 year old son to see him speak. Lucky dude gets out of school early for the occasion.

Traffic should be knarly around Sugar Land here today. For once I'm glad I'm going into Houston for inspections.
Cool,he will remember it for ever.

I remember waving to the Queen of England in Aberdeen Scotland as she made her way to Balmoral circa 1982, she must be doing something right as she is still in office.

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And on this issue alone you deem bush far right?

Isn't that rather one dimensional?

If other's where to use a different single issue as the measure of "leftedness" or "rightedness", Bush would be considered "far left" on the illegal immigration issue.
Wrong, Bush's stand on Immigration is far right, he is not backing "Comprehensive Immigration" out of any sense of Humanity or Human Rights like the Left wingers say they are, he is backing open Borders and Amnesty because it provides CHEAP LABOR, its not just the "cause" that determines whether a policy is Liberal or Conservative, it the reasons behind the the policy, again Bush is Far Far to the Right of Conservatism which calls for Nationalism and Strong Borders......which any National Security Policy should also provide, instead 5 years after 9/11 millions still enter the U.S. Illegally across the Borders Bush Refuses to Secure......selling out Americas Security for Cheap Labor is way beyond Far Right, it enters the area of Corporatism......a Blending of the State, Corporations, and the Church, which Mussolini called Fascism......
Again from Bush's New Bill:

"Subsection 4(b) (26) of section 950v. of HR 6166 - Crimes triable by military commissions - includes the following definition.

"Any person subject to this chapter who, in breach of an allegiance or duty to the United States, knowingly and intentionally aids an enemy of the United States, or one of the co-belligerents of the enemy, shall be punished as a military commission under this chapter may direct."

Why would a Terrorist or Forieng Enemy Combatant owe any Alligience to the United States? Who is this paragraph relly directed at. How many Times ahs Bush/Cheney/ Rumsfeld etc. said that those who do not support Bush's Policies are giving Aide to the Enemy?

Here's another little tidbit:

A couple of days before the Enabling Act was passed in Germany in 33', which portions of Bush's New Bill are very similiar, Hitler signed a Decree which"allowed for the establishment of special courts to try political offenders. These courts were conducted in the military style of a court-martial without a jury and usually with no counsel for the defense."

A Decree very similiar to the section of Bush's "military Commisions Act of 2006", but don't worry both Bush and Hitler told their people that """The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures...The number of cases in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a law is in itself a limited one." and we all know how Hitler kept his promise
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I support BUSH....Voted for BOTH BUSH's

Do I like the way the war is going...NOPE.......but I can't blame (1) man....takes more to fire the shots than (1) finger on the trigger.

Hmmm...I may have been TOO young to vote for Reagan...but I would have...



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And regardless of what I think of W... it is VERY cool to take the boy to see him! Good job John O.!
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I was going to see Cheney this coming Thursday here in Coeur d'Alene, but I'd probably get thrown out or arrested because I have a Democrats Campaign Poster in the window of my truck.....I'd probably have to lie and promise the local RNC my first born to get the tickets anyway, the last time he was around, you had to sign a loyalty oath to get the tickets......if I went to see him I'd feel like a Hypocrit seeing as when either he or Bush come on TV I always hit the button and change channels......Its being called a Victory Party.......gotta give those Republicans credit for being optimistic, Victory PArties a week before the election and $20 Million set aside for the Victory in Iraq Party, I've generally found Optimists and Folls to be very much alike.
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Old 10/30/06, 7:33 PM
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To me Ronald Reagan made Americans remember what it meant to be an American. He never let anyone doubt the greatness of the Human spirit regardless of their nationality. He believed that with the freedoms we enjoy in this country anyone could achieve anything. We had wandered too far off the farm and he brought that back. He was a member of the greatest generation and he brought that back to memory as well. He saw first hand what this country was capable of doing when everyone was pulling in the same direction and had a common enemy. As someone said. He made us keep our eye on the ball. The politics in Washington today makes the average American that is paying attention sick to their stomachs. Both sides of the aisle have lost sight of what we sent them there to do. We are guilty as well for allowing the politicians to become elitists ruling class and we treat them like royalty. We have no royalty here and it get about a foot and a half up the crack of my bo-hieny whenever I hear about the Kennedy's...America's Royalty. Hogwash! John Kennedy would be rolling over in his grave if he could see what has happened to his Party and his country. We have become a nation of victims, whiners and loafers. Our schools are producing imbeciles who can't read but manage to graduate....etc. Ronald Reagan brought everything back into focus and he didn't apologize to anyone for being proud of his nation. We could use about 10 more just like him. If he said something, you could take it to the bank. One of his greatest leadership traits was he didn't care who got credit for doing something right just as long as it got done. I hate it he spent the last years of his life the way he did. He was truly a great man.
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He was truly a great man.
He truly was.
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Old 10/30/06, 7:52 PM
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Reagan was an excellent reader, that's for sure. He had nice hair too.
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To me Ronald Reagan made Americans remember what it meant to be an American. He never let anyone doubt the greatness of the Human spirit regardless of their nationality. He believed that with the freedoms we enjoy in this country anyone could achieve anything. We had wandered too far off the farm and he brought that back. He was a member of the greatest generation and he brought that back to memory as well. He saw first hand what this country was capable of doing when everyone was pulling in the same direction and had a common enemy. As someone said. He made us keep our eye on the ball. The politics in Washington today makes the average American that is paying attention sick to their stomachs. Both sides of the aisle have lost sight of what we sent them there to do. We are guilty as well for allowing the politicians to become elitists ruling class and we treat them like royalty. We have no royalty here and it get about a foot and a half up the crack of my bo-hieny whenever I hear about the Kennedy's...America's Royalty. Hogwash! John Kennedy would be rolling over in his grave if he could see what has happened to his Party and his country. We have become a nation of victims, whiners and loafers. Our schools are producing imbeciles who can't read but manage to graduate....etc. Ronald Reagan brought everything back into focus and he didn't apologize to anyone for being proud of his nation. We could use about 10 more just like him. If he said something, you could take it to the bank. One of his greatest leadership traits was he didn't care who got credit for doing something right just as long as it got done. I hate it he spent the last years of his life the way he did. He was truly a great man.
Reagan made the phrase "I do not recall" famous, its been a staple of the Republican Party ever since. I liked Reagan, but a Great Man would never had allowed the Iran Contra Affair to Happen, if it hadn't and the Arms for Hostages scandle hadn't followed, and ishortly after leaving Office the Savings and loan Fiasco hadn't occured, then I would agree with you that he was a Great Man, he was a good President, but not a Great one, he was a much Better Man than he was a Presidnet also, but then so is Jimmy Carter.....

Reagan might have had a chance to be great if he had chosen not to surround himself with the people he did, which happen to be the same people that both Bush41 and Bush43 surrounded themselves with....but Presidents don't usually have much choice in their Vice Presidents

I still think Nixon was a better President than Reagan, if Watergate had not happened Nixon would be known as one of the greatest Presidents in History, he served when the Soviet Union was really powerful and Nuclear War was a real danger, when Reagan came in the Soviets were already in deep decline, Reagan's brilliance was that he recognized that and kept the finacial and Military pressure up, in fact he increased it dramatically. I was in the Army then, and although I liked Reagan he really didn't do much for our Military, for much of the 80's we couldn't get parts, training equipment or money for training, the early 80's saw some of the worst recruits coming in that I ever saw, and instead of going after Hezbollah and the Syrians after they killed 240+ Marines in Beruit, he sent us to Grenada, which was an improvement from where I'd been shortly before
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So, Lewis, how often does your militia meet for training?
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To me Ronald Reagan made Americans remember what it meant to be an American. He never let anyone doubt the greatness of the Human spirit regardless of their nationality. He believed that with the freedoms we enjoy in this country anyone could achieve anything. We had wandered too far off the farm and he brought that back. He was a member of the greatest generation and he brought that back to memory as well. He saw first hand what this country was capable of doing when everyone was pulling in the same direction and had a common enemy. As someone said. He made us keep our eye on the ball. The politics in Washington today makes the average American that is paying attention sick to their stomachs. Both sides of the aisle have lost sight of what we sent them there to do. We are guilty as well for allowing the politicians to become elitists ruling class and we treat them like royalty. We have no royalty here and it get about a foot and a half up the crack of my bo-hieny whenever I hear about the Kennedy's...America's Royalty. Hogwash! John Kennedy would be rolling over in his grave if he could see what has happened to his Party and his country. We have become a nation of victims, whiners and loafers. Our schools are producing imbeciles who can't read but manage to graduate....etc. Ronald Reagan brought everything back into focus and he didn't apologize to anyone for being proud of his nation. We could use about 10 more just like him. If he said something, you could take it to the bank. One of his greatest leadership traits was he didn't care who got credit for doing something right just as long as it got done. I hate it he spent the last years of his life the way he did. He was truly a great man.

Bravo Doug! 100% agree with you! All of it!
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Have any of you seen the special on Barry Goldwater that has been on Cable for the last month or so? I disagreed with Goldwater a lot when he was in Office, but I always liked and respected him. In the film he argued against the Republican Party getting involved in Religious and Moral Issues, like he said the REpublicans of the Future will regard him as a Liberal. almost the same goes for Reagan.

Remember the Good old Days when you could actually believe that the Politicians, which ever Party, were actually arguing for what they believed was best for the Country, and how they could argue for hours over their different views and then sit down and hammer out the best Compromise they could, and then go have dinner together.....

Now we have My Way or No Way Politicians, hopefully next Tuesday will change that, not that the Democrats are much better, but if you look back at hthe History of the U.S. for the past 60 years or so, you'll find that the best things happened when Congress was split or of the party that didn't occupy the Whitehouse...Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely...separate parties in Congress and the Whitehouse force comprmise or stalemate, either of which are better than what we've had for the past 6 years.......I voted for a Republcan Congressman in 94' just for that reason, he happened to defeat the then Speaker of the House Tom Foley.....of course like 28 or so Republicans in 94' he promised to give us Term Limitations and to serve only 6 years.....he was therefor 10, some of the others are still there, and Term Limitations were just another Part of the Contract with America that was ignored by the Republicans.....Throw all the Bums out next Tuesday, Republican or Democrat...
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So, Lewis, how often does your militia meet for training?
James,

I don't need a Militia, the Army still sends me a Check every month. I spent 22 years there, every few years reenlisting and swearing to Defend the Constitution of the United States, now we have a government doing its best to destroy that same Constitution all under the disguise of Protecting Us.......

I didn't write Bush's Bill, the Republicans did......I just point out what's in it.

The Ayrians up here are mostly gone, or at least disguised as Christian Chruch Members, there are still acouple of groups around that call themselves Militia's but I think most of their members are probably FBI or ATF agents spying on each other.

I've found that if you want to know what is going on in Government you have to go out and find it, neither the Media nor the Government is going to tell you what's going on.

The Bill I quoted now called the "Torture Bill" is one of the most important Bills Passed during the Bush years, its right up there, and in fact gives more power to the President than the Patriot Act, I heard rumors about it so I looked it up and read it, something the majority of Congress haven't done, even after voting for it

I was a History Major, I can't help pointing out similairities betweenour government and other democracies that have failed, this present American Government happens to have many similarities to that of 1930's Germany, History does repeat itself
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Our country also strongly resembles the Roman Empire just before it fell and a whole host of other civilizations that collapsed. There is a pattern and we are in the last stages of it.
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lol...ahhh...OK.......



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