Heat

[bkelly1]

Paul Harvey and many others have been talking this heater up, using thermal heat waves. I have heard and seen many people talking about it and how they save around 50 percent on the energy bills. The company was in my area today selling the units for fifty less than normal and I picked one up. It is suppose to heat 1100 sq ft evenly. My house is bigger but it is just me and my wife so I thought I would give it a try. I brought it home and plugged it in around 4 hours ago, it has been between thirty and thirty two degrees all day. My central unit ran all morning, since plugging the new unit in, my central has not come on once and it is very warm in the house. Here is the link http://www.edenpurestore.com/ I was just wondering if anyone else has bought one and what you think?

The thermal video at the bottom is pretty cool.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by bkelly1

Paul Harvey and many others have been talking this heater up, using thermal heat waves. I have heard and seen many people talking about it and how they save around 50 percent on the energy bills. The company was in my area today selling the units for fifty less than normal and I picked one up. It is suppose to heat 1100 sq ft evenly. My house is bigger but it is just me and my wife so I thought I would give it a try. I brought it home and plugged it in around 4 hours ago, it has been between thirty and thirty two degrees all day. My central unit ran all morning, since plugging the new unit in, my central has not come on once and it is very warm in the house. Here is the link http://www.edenpurestore.com/ I was just wondering if anyone else has bought one and what you think?

Nothing new here Ben.


What is your cost per kilowatt in TN?

Mine is $0.11

[bkelly1]

I think around .10 here, do you use one? So far I can see where this will save, like I said my unit hasn;t come on in many hours.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by bkelly1

I think around .10 here, do you use one? So far I can see where this will save, like I said my unit hasn;t come on in many hours.

Do some calculations for you cost per BTU for this unit and your normal heat source.

It's the only way to tell.

Though electric heat is better than 95% efficient it usually cost more per BTU than other fuel sources.

[bkelly1]

I am all electric due to the distance I live out. My central unit has still not turned on and the temperature outdoors is slowly dropping. I can see where this will save me money bc the central is not running. How much is yet to be determined.

[klott]

Originally Posted by bkelly1

Paul Harvey and many others have been talking this heater up, using thermal heat waves. I have heard and seen many people talking about it and how they save around 50 percent on the energy bills. The company was in my area today selling the units for fifty less than normal and I picked one up. It is suppose to heat 1100 sq ft evenly. My house is bigger but it is just me and my wife so I thought I would give it a try. I brought it home and plugged it in around 4 hours ago, it has been between thirty and thirty two degrees all day. My central unit ran all morning, since plugging the new unit in, my central has not come on once and it is very warm in the house. Here is the link http://www.edenpurestore.com/ I was just wondering if anyone else has bought one and what you think?

The thermal video at the bottom is pretty cool.

Are you sure you turned it on?

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by bkelly1

I am all electric due to the distance I live out. My central unit has still not turned on and the temperature outdoors is slowly dropping. I can see where this will save me money bc the central is not running. How much is yet to be determined.

I looked at the spec sheet draws 12.6 amps the compresor in my new heat pump draws 13 amps my electrical bill for Nov was $69.00

[bkelly1]

Thirty and thirty two outdoors, now 29.

My unit is all electric and about 10yrs old, but its too cold to see what it pulls.HA. My Bill typically is around 230 and up for Nov thru Feb. Of course we also keep the pool open all year, the wife likes to stare at it and dream.

$69 for Novemeber is Great, I would gladly trade with you.

[David A. Andersen]

I'm sorry Ben, but the numbers don't work out.

I have looked at this unit before. What you have, is a better distribution system. If the heat is better distributed, your more comfortable. If your more comfortable you can turn down the heat and reduce your utility.

Central Air units are very inefficient, so this thing will in fact save you money, but not for the reasons they state.

[David A. Andersen]

The EdenPure TM heater is healthy! Its patented heating technology does not reduce humidity or oxygen in your home or office giving you and your family better health!

I always love this one!
No heat removes water vapor from the air (directly).
It may use the high humidity air for combustion and replace it with cold/dry air from outdoors which has a very low humidity when heated back to the room temp.

But it doesn't burn it up and dry the air as they imply.

[bkelly1]

Originally Posted by dandersen

I'm sorry Ben, but the numbers don't work out.

I have looked at this unit before. What you have, is a better distribution system. If the heat is better distributed, your more comfortable. If your more comfortable you can turn down the heat and reduce your utility.

Central Air units are very inefficient, so this thing will in fact save you money, but not for the reasons they state.

Hows things on your side of the river? The money is all I was looking for. Haha. I see and understand what you are saying, but as long as the central doesn't run as much, I am happy. Honestly if it does half of what they claim it will pay for itself. I have also contemplated putting it in my garage for my two best friends and let them have a little heat this winter instead of a heat lamp.

[David A. Andersen]

Your heat pump can operate more efficiently per watt consumed, under certain conditions. But an electric device can only produce 3.413 BTU/W.

1 kW is 3,413 BTUs. Therefore, 1500 Watts = 1.5 kW and 1.5 kW x 3413 BTU/kW = 3 413 * 1.5 = 5 119.5 BTUs per hr for a 1500 Watt heater

I can tell you the many ways a Heat Pump looses you money, but I'm not going to do it here. I'll let Ben take care of that.

Electric space heaters are "pigs"!
Once their heat gets 40 inches above the floor, it's wasted.
In the IR show, that hot spot on the ceiling is a big waste because the greater the temperature differential, the faster the heat passes through the ceiling. It never has a chance to get back to the floor, so it's gone!

[David A. Andersen]

Originally Posted by bkelly1

Hows things on your side of the river? The money is all I was looking for. Haha. I see and understand what you are saying, but as long as the central doesn't run as much, I am happy. Honestly if it does half of what they claim it will pay for itself. I have also contemplated putting it in my garage for my two best friends and let them have a little heat this winter instead of a heat lamp.

Don't get me wrong, we heat pump only guys need auxiliary heat sources when the mercury falls.
That is a good unit, but the marketing is bogus!

You WILL save money, in spite of it. Just don't jump on their band wagon!
The key is distribution.You can't argue with the IR Camera!

If you can set your central heat around 60-65 and heat the room your in with this thing, you'll cut out all those "defrost" cycles which is A/C on along with about 45 amps of electric heat just to maintain house temp. every 45 min (or 20 min if your doing Ben's course).

[bkelly1]

My heat pump has always done a good job, it just really spins the meter, and near the vents it fills "cold" at times. I have also looked at getting a propane tank and ventless logs for the wife. Dave, are the newer heat pumps operating that much more effecient?

There is no gas here in my area of the country. When we built the house tva came and did an insulation inspection and we scored the highest possible. With that we got the electric water heater free, free underground service (about 1100 ft) and 700 cash. That was about 9 years ago, I am not sure if they still do that or not. Little did they know, we had no other choice.

[bkelly1]

The space heaters are definetly pigs, I still see some people buy them thinking they are doing themselves a favor. A friend of mine bought about three for his home last year to "help save money". He soon learned that it didn't.