I'm a "former" Philly fan as of today.

[Nick Gromicko]

I've calmed down in my old age, but there was a time when I was a young man that had someone electrocuted my dog, I would have methodically and quietly taken him out... and I don't mean to dinner.

[Stephen W. Stanczyk]

And the first time McNabb goes down and Vick comes in to lead the team to victory with his running and passing, no thought will be given to his past.

I doubt if anyone had second thoughts about Leonard Little and his manslaughter case. Oh wait, he went to the Pro Bowl a few years later.

Or maybe Ray Lewis. Let's see, was that two murders? Nah, he made a deal in exchange for an obstruction of justice charge and testimony against 2 friends. Nobody pays attention after his many Pro Bowl appearances.

Then there is Jamal Lewis, Christian Peter, "Pacman" Jones, Tank Johnson.......

During the 2007 NFL season, 21% of players had arrest records.

Don't get me wrong. Personally, I think he should have been fed to his dogs, but he has served his time. Now that he is out, if he can still play at the NFL level, let him play.

[Nick Gromicko]

Everyone deserves a second chance. But he wasn't caught harmlessly stealing a car, writing a bad check, or smokin' some weed. I'm guilty of 2 of those 3 myself.

He was caught torturing dogs. That's a whole different ball game IMHO, no pun intended.

[Paul Pendley]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Everyone deserves a second chance. But he wasn't caught harmlessly stealing a car, writing a bad check, or smokin' some weed. I'm guilty of 2 of those 3 myself.

He was caught torturing dogs. That's a whole different ball game, no pun intended.

As bad as this sounds....What about the Chicken Fights, Bull Riding, and the rest that goes on??? Not that Im defending his actions but what about these kinds of activities that go on un-noticed?

[Nick Gromicko]

I don't know exactly where to draw the line. All I know for sure is that smoking weed is on one side of it, and electrocuting dogs is on the other.

[Paul Pendley]

UMMMM.....I know which side IM on...someone got some jokers???

[Joseph A. Ferry]

Originally Posted by sstanczyk

And the first time McNabb goes down and Vick comes in to lead the team to victory . . .

From your lips to God's ears.

McNabb stinks. He throws more ground balls than Ryan Howard in infield practice.

[Joseph A. Ferry]

A little perspective. They eat dogs in Korea and many other places. "Number 1 chop chop" one local assured me while making an offer I declined.

I like dogs. I don't worship them.

We kill cows, pigs, chickens, goats and other animals for food. Is killing for food somehow morally superior to killing them for sport?

Get a grip. Vick ran afoul of an American law doing something that is not outlawed elsewhere. He did the crime and he did the time.

I also think that Dante Stallworth is getting railroaded. Yes he was over the "statutory" DUI limit. I have known many individuals who were over that limit at all times and whom I would drive from Philly to LA with. They had capacity. Apparently Stallworth did, too. He stopped and offered assistance, two indices of an individual who is not inebriated, notwithstanding what his blood alcohol level is.

I just hope the morons who populate Philadelphia sporting events and have driven me from ever attending one do not torture him.

I know. Might as well wish for a million dollars while I'm at it.

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

You took the words right out of my mouth. I like dogs too in fact I like most animals. I gave up hunting decades ago, not because I am against it in any form but I really hate dragging my *** out of the warm bed to sit in the forest in the cold and wet environment. As long as Winn Dixie is still the Beef people and I can go hunt me up a steak already killed, dressed and ready for the grill I ain't hunting a damn thing until I have to, to survive. That leaves more deer and other critters for the rest of the hunters.

I was going to say, a tortured (strangled) dog is the opening act for a Fillipino wedding, and usually the main course for the reception feast. Other cultures eat dogs, cats, rats, frogs and every kind of creeping damn thing under the sun and in my younger days, when I had been properly lubricated I have been known to eat some pretty scary **** while overseas.

The same people who get their panties in a wad over a dog or a baby seal don't bat an eye at the aborting of a human baby.

[Wayne B. Wilson]

He paid his due , Now it is a new start, As far as DUI i have no tolerance for that. I had to scrape up to many after a drunk hit them. Whether they can drive and act normal their reactions is slower. I hate it when A celebrity or Jock gets off just because Who they are and have the money to Hire the lip service to get them out of trouble. Break the law pay the piper . Perhaps People that think they can Handle 3 or four drinks and drive should help cut someone out of the wreckage someday , Or pick up body parts up. Btw .126 is pretty high

[Paul Pendley]

Dont even put DUI in this catagory in my opinion.

[Nick Gromicko]

Killing a dog to eat it and torturing it to death for laughs are 2 very different things IMHO.

Vick is sick.

[Joseph A. Ferry]

Originally Posted by wwilson3

Btw .126 is pretty high

Wow. Yeah, it is. I didn't know it was that high.

I think that .08 for a lot of people is not very high, though. It should be .10.

We had a pilot at CKV who got killed in a crash and he was .26!!! I don't know how he found the active runway much less got airborne.

[Joseph A. Ferry]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Killing a dog to eat it and torturing it to death for laughs are 2 very different things IMHO.

Vick is sick.

Well, yeah. That's certainly true.

I just believe - or want to believe - in redemption.

[Ben L. Garrison]

Anyone who is now a "former" Philly fan because of the acquisition of Michael Vick never was a true fan to begin with. In subsequent posts, people have brought up valid points about the fact that we hunt animals such as deer, moose, birds, etc., etc. In some countries, they eat dogs. And that Ray Lewis essentially killed someone and became the NFL's most prolific linebacker.

I abhor what Vick did. It's reprehensible and disgusting. He did, however, serve his time. Football is a business. And the single objective is to win the Superbowl almost by any means necessary. If Vick can contribute to that goal, and I think he can, then I'm all for it. Nobody can change what he did in the past, but I can certainly look forward to what he can bring to the Eagles organization.