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Old 9/9/08, 9:18 PM
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Default I'm voting for Sarah, and that guy she's running with.

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Old 9/9/08, 9:22 PM
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I do not think he is a citizen Nick.
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I do not think he is a citizen Nick.
Good choice though



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Old 9/9/08, 10:19 PM
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http://www.michaelpalinforpresident.com/

Gerry is having some sort of weird revenge.



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I do not think he is a citizen Nick.

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http://www.michaelpalinforpresident.com/

Gerry is having some sort of weird revenge.
Whats wierd about it?

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Old 9/9/08, 11:33 PM
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Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and so can't be sworn in as President anyway. The rules (at the time of his birth) required him to have at least 1 U.S. Citizen as a parent and that parent had to be a U.S. citizen for at least 5 years after the age of 16. Obamas mother had him at 18, 3 years too early for her to count. Obamas father was never a U.S. citizen. Obama can't be sworn in as President and so he is wasting his time.



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Old 9/9/08, 11:50 PM
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Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and so can't be sworn in as President anyway. The rules (at the time of his birth) required him to have at least 1 U.S. Citizen as a parent and that parent had to be a U.S. citizen for at least 5 years after the age of 16. Obamas mother had him at 18, 3 years too early for her to count. Obamas father was never a U.S. citizen. Obama can't be sworn in as President and so he is wasting his time.
Nick that one man can be wrong so often on such a wide range of topics is amusing. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
Obama was born in Hawaii


But it does explain you being so enamored with that intellectual sack of hammers Palin.
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Old 9/9/08, 11:54 PM
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Nope. Being born in the U.S. makes you a citizen, not a natural born citizen (different standard).



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Old 9/9/08, 11:55 PM
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To be a natural born citizen, at least one of your parents had to be a U.S. citizen (Obama's Mom was) for at least 5 years after the age of 16. That was the law from 1952 to 1986. Obamas father was not a U.S. Citizen ever. Obama's Mom would have had to have waited until the age of 21 to have Obama. She had him at 18.



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Old 9/9/08, 11:58 PM
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To be a natural born citizen, at least one of your parents had to be a U.S. citizen (Obama's Mom was) for at least 5 years after the age of 16. That was the law from 1952 to 1986. Obamas father was not a U.S. Citizen ever. Obama's Mom would have had to have waited until the age of 21 to have Obama. She had him at 18.
Stop digging Nick and re read the 14th amendment.
Or perhaps one of your legal scholars can chime in for you, but then again, they do not seem that clever either.
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Old 9/10/08, 12:00 AM
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Nope. Being born in the U.S. makes you a citizen, not a natural born citizen (different standard).
There will be a lot of disappointed campaign donors, when they learn after he's elected president, he can't legally be one.



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Old 9/10/08, 12:14 AM
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http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html




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Old 9/10/08, 12:15 AM
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Brian Kelly writes:
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Stop digging Nick and re read the 14th amendment.
Or perhaps one of your legal scholars can chime in for you, but then again, they do not seem that clever either.
Section 1 of Article II of the Constitution contains the clause:
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No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Could you please tell me where in the 14th amendment it says a mere citizen, like a "natural born" citizen, is now permitted to be President as well?

I can't find it... and neither will you.



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Old 9/10/08, 12:20 AM
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A "natural born" citizen requires that at least one of your parents was a citizen for 10 years at the time of your birth, 5 of them had to be after the age of 16.

Which of Obama's parents was at least 21 years old and a U.S. citizen for at least 10 years at the time of his birth?

Obama is a U.S. citizen, but not a "natural born" citizen.

He can't be President.



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