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Old 8/24/08, 9:43 AM
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Default Inflation -or- Deflation

Will the upcoming recession be inflationary or deflationary, on many of the economic forums the debate rages on, currently we have been seeing commodity prices falling which appears to be deflationary, here is an interesting article which counters that notion.

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At What Point Does the U.S. Just Go Broke?
Friday, August 22, 2008 1:14 PM

The U.S. government, like so many creaky monarchies and dubious regimes in history, may be conspiring to repudiate its own debt, suggests a former vice president at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas.

U.S. Treasury debt obligations have long been considered the most secure and most certain of repayment in full, including interest. It's part of the reason the dollar has stayed strong, and why the United States has been able to borrow so much, so cheaply, for decades.

Increasingly, that trust is for the first time becoming questionable.

"Congress, with the complicity of the White House and the Fed, has arguably embarked on a stealth repudiation," warns Gerald P. O. O'Driscoll Jr., writing in The Wall Street Journal.

Although not predicting that the government will default on its obligations, O'Driscoll writes that U.S. debt will be met through what famed economist Adam Smith, author of The Wealth of Nations, called "pretend payments."

In other words, debts would be repaid through deliberately uncontrolled inflation, according to O'Driscoll, now a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. That means Uncle Sam will be paying back its borrowed money with debased dollars, the so-called "pretend payments."

In their successful fight against inflation, President Ronald Reagan and then-Fed Chair Paul Volcker were greatly assisted by "bond vigilantes," who bid up interest rates on bonds to 10 percent and more.

The high cost of money and low taxes during that era ignited an economic boom, says O'Driscoll, and beefed up the Fed's credibility. The message: In its efforts to control inflation, the Fed won't cave to political pressure.

Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan continued to keep a lid on inflation, although
inflationary currents were mild during most of his tenure.

Now, Fed chief Bernanke pursues an "easy money policy with inflation already picking up," says O'Driscoll.

Even worse, "We have the accumulated effects of seven years of loose fiscal policy."

Long gone are the growth-stimulating effects of the Bush tax cuts, eclipsed by massive government spending, he warns.

"Government spending is the ultimate tax on the economy," writes O'Driscoll, quoting economist Milton Friedman.

"It extracts real resources from productive, private use, and puts them to unproductive, public use. And there is the rub."

Even a Democratically controlled Congress cannot raise taxes high enough to pay for all the previous government spending and the accumulated debt.

As a result, says O'Driscoll, "We are at a Smithian moment, in which the temptation for the Fed to spend its last dime of credibility may prove irresistible."

Investors, he warns, are already being taxed by inflation and can rationally expect inflation to increase.

"Wages are not keeping up. Main Street is being taxed to fund Wall Street excess. Anyone who works, saves and invests is exposed to confiscation of his capital and earnings through inflation."

We wouldn't be facing this problem, O'Driscoll writes, if the Fed had maintained its independence and had said no to congressional spending.

"There has never been a single instance of sovereign debts having been repaid once accumulated to a certain degree," O'Driscoll writes, quoting Smith again.

And, in fact, we may have reached already Smith's dangerous threshold, he warns.



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Old 8/24/08, 9:49 AM
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We can always start by collecting from those countries who happen to owe US, for once.
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Old 8/24/08, 10:15 AM
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Even worse, "We have the accumulated effects of seven years of loose fiscal policy."

"Government spending is the ultimate tax on the economy," writes O'Driscoll, quoting economist Milton Friedman.

"It extracts real resources from productive, private use, and puts them to unproductive, public use. And there is the rub."

We wouldn't be facing this problem, O'Driscoll writes, if the Fed had maintained its independence and had said no to congressional spending.
If the problem only encompassed the last seven years it would be relatively easy to fix.

It has taken 60 years to build the current mess and until government spending is reigned in(not just lip service) it will only get worse.

Be careful who you vote for at ALL levels of government.



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Old 8/24/08, 10:44 AM
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"Be careful who you vote for at ALL levels of government."

And there-in lies the REAL rub. All politicians know that they can buy our votes with our money. It is the same problem seen over and over again in all democracies - "Eliminate the other guy's spot at the public trough, not mine!"
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Old 8/24/08, 11:02 AM
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George,

I agree. As long as everyone insists that their guy is fine and that it's someone else's guy that's the problem we are doomed.

To many have their own little(or big) project that they want everyone else to pay for it.



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