NACHI Code of Ethics Violation

[Barry Adair]

To the members of our ethics committee and the webmaster,

Please be advised that Google and other search engines are picking up the reputation associated with our membership, in doing so I believe #3 of our own Ethics is being violated by our own message board system and should cease and desist immediately.

Copied from NACHI Code of Ethics
Duty to the Profession and NACHI

1. The NACHI member will strive to improve the Home Inspection Industry by sharing his/her lessons and/or experiences for the benefit of all. This does not preclude the member from copyrighting or marketing his/her expertise to other Inspectors or the public in any manner permitted by law.
2. The NACHI member shall assist the NACHI leadership in disseminating and publicizing the benefits of NACHI membership.
3. The NACHI member will not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to NACHI, fellow NACHI members, NACHI employees, leadership or directors. Member(s) accused of acting or deemed in violation of such rules shall be reviewed by the Ethics committee for possible sanctions and/or expulsion from NACHI.

Please advise,

[James H. Bushart]

Barry, you have an interesting complaint. Please be specific as to what particular member you are lodging this complaint against and email me or any other committee member a full explanation as to how you feel these actions have been harmful to NACHI members, to include any specific responses made by the public to this Google search result. Thanks.

[Dale Duffy]

True barry...I saw one link on Google before I went on vacation accusing a women member here of being a "Wh***........

[Paul W. Abernathy]

I would guess his complaint is against Chris for the Rep system itself?

Am I correct Barry?

[James H. Bushart]

Please keep in mind of the precedent that such an action would establish...

If you post something that offends me or that I perceive could cause me harm...and Google picks it up...have you necessarily acted unethically? Was it your intention to make a statement on the NACHI message board to NACHI members or to the world, through Google?

Again, your argument is interesting and should be looked at. Just give us as much real facts as you can muster. Generalities do not help in an ethics complaint of this nature.

[Barry Adair]

Please read again and tell me that my previous statement is not factual.

The NACHI member will not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to NACHI, fellow NACHI members, NACHI employees, leadership or directors. Member(s) accused of acting or deemed in violation of such rules shall be reviewed by the Ethics committee for possible sanctions and/or expulsion from NACHI.

[Richard L. Bennett]

Jame -- me thinks you are off base on this one -- The ethics violation was done by a NACHI staff member who created a system where members could hurt other members without knowing it. This was not an intentional violation of the COE

Now that this is known if some one blasts someone with red flags and it hurts the member then the blaster is in violation

Where I see the problem is when the information that might hurt is true

rlb

[Andrew Cox]

Rather than an Ethics issue, shouldn't Chris be asked, begged, or whatever to get rid of this immediately? I see no reason this "reputation" system was even started.

[Barry Adair]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Please keep in mind of the precedent that such an action would establish...

And what precedent would that be? Who would be affected by this precedent?

If you post something that offends me or that I perceive could cause me harm...and Google picks it up...have you necessarily acted unethically?

The NACHI member will not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to NACHI, fellow NACHI members, NACHI employees, leadership or directors. Member(s) accused of acting or deemed in violation of such rules shall be reviewed by the Ethics committee for possible sanctions and/or expulsion from NACHI.


I'll allow you interpret this ethics stament for yourself. I'm reading it literally in lieu of recent events brought to my attention concerning the search engines and the discrediting of our members and NACHI as a whole. IMHO


Was it your intention to make a statement on the NACHI message board to NACHI members or to the world, through Google?

Anyone that deems it reasonable and honest.

Again, your argument is interesting and should be looked at. Just give us as much real facts as you can muster. Generalities do not help in an ethics complaint of this nature.

You've seen and participated in discussion of the facts. What else do you need?

I hope this clears up what you or anyone else thought my intentions were or what I may of meant.

Regards,

[Nick Gromicko]

But the reputation system is voluntary. Each member can opt in or out if he/she thinks it helps or harms.

Participation in the message board reputation system is for each member to decide for themselves.

[Barry Adair]

Originally Posted by gromicko

But the reputation system is voluntary. Each member can opt in or out if he/she thinks it helps or harms.

Participation in the message board reputation system is for each member to decide for themselves.

Does this mean the potential negative effects from the reputation system, on individual members in public viewing, is acceptable to you?

Please go to the Member's Only and view for yourself. If you wont do that please let me know and I'll send it to you by e-mail.

Regards,

[Barry Adair]

Nick,

Please explain why the system was initiated in the first place.

Why do you think there is a need for it to remain?

[jclark1]

Nick,
In all these threads about the rep system, I've not seen one person stick up for it. Most say they want it gone. What if we did a poll and 90% of the message board users said to get rid of it? Would that do it for you? I know this isn't exactly a democracy, but members should have some say, don't you think?

[Stephen W. Stanczyk]

I think this system was started as a result of the "Canadian Thread Debacle" and the number of non-members that continued to post garbage on the board. I have no problem with this system as it applies to NON-Members but current MEMBERS should have a choice.

It would be best that the whole system be turned off for all MEMBERS and those that wish to keep it, should be able to turn their own back on. It should be a "user initiated" choice.

Steved

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by dduffy

True barry...I saw one link on Google before I went on vacation accusing a women member here of being a "Wh***........

Oh great.