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Old 8/17/07, 11:40 AM
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Default NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

Although home inspectors do not check for code compliance, some of our work as home inspectors is based on standard codes, especially in the area of occupant safety (the space between railing spindles for example).

NACHI, with the help of an architectural firm and 2 in-NACHI-house architectural interns, is developing a set of international residential and commercial codes. These are all basic, universal post-construction codes (things one might check in the course of a home inspection on a property that is already constructed).

The project, inspired by a request from the Chinese Government, will be called GlobeCodes.

Anyone desiring to assist on a review committee for this project should contact me direct at nick.gromicko@nachi.org



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Old 8/17/07, 4:34 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

Nick-

I can try to help you develop your International Codes as I am a full-tim Code Official for my local City. I do Home Inspections on nights and week ends.

I have been doing code enforcement for 10 years, Home Inspections for 18 mos. I am a NACHI member in good standing, (Cert. #0607149.

The only problem I might have is to do this long-distance, e-mail etc.

What do you think?

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Old 8/17/07, 4:42 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

First of all, I would suggest that NACHI broaden its base and utilize as resources experts in plumbing, electrical and HVAC in addition to those named.

Second, what you have described ---- "universal post-construction codes (things one might check in the course of a home inspection on a property that is already constructed)" ---- is more of an SOP than a code. A "code" by definition is something that can be enforced. "Things one might check" is totally different.



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Old 8/17/07, 4:58 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

Nick:
See the International Code Council's "International Residential Code: For One and two Family Dwellings" (2003).
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Old 8/17/07, 5:08 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

Nick,

Are we talking about the same Chinese? The same one's that manufacture our TOYS, FISH, and millions of other recalled products?
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Old 8/17/07, 5:14 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

Another reference might be the ICC's International Property Maintenance Code-2006. It is worth the time and investment.

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Old 8/17/07, 6:05 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

What does the Chinese government care about codes, if something fails just have the contractor commit suicide or execute him.
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Old 8/17/07, 6:16 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

I believe the ICC already has it covered in the International Existing Building Code.



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Old 8/18/07, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

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What does the Chinese government care about codes, if something fails just have the contractor commit suicide or execute him.
The French had a good idea of two as well.




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Old 8/18/07, 11:48 AM
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What does the Chinese government care about codes, if something fails just have the contractor commit suicide or execute him.
I thought that was a Japanese practice?
Guess I better catch up on my soc studies . .

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Old 8/18/07, 7:43 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

Jim B:

I'm not so sure it is an SOP thing. SOP's describe what to inspect, but not what is correct or incorrect. For instance, our SOP talks about spacing between stair spindles but doesn't say what exactly it should be. A Global Code would.



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Old 8/18/07, 7:54 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

Seems to me a bit redundant since as we have been reading here The International Building Code..hence the name, has it pretty much covered. JMHO.





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Old 8/18/07, 7:57 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

Humberto, so you agree with me that our SOP does not cover it? That our SOP tells us only WHAT to inspect, correct? It asks us to inspect stuff without telling us what is correct or incorrect. I'll use the spindle spacing as an example again.



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Old 8/18/07, 8:02 PM
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Default Re: NACHI developing international inspection codes: GlobeCodes.

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For instance, our SOP talks about spacing between stair spindles but doesn't say what exactly it should be.
There's a US organiziation that has made a pretty good impact doing just that....check out www.iccsafe.org and www.icc-foundation.org . ...I wonder why those sites refer to the International Code Council? Why try to reinvent the wheel? See R312.1 for your example. I think NACHI will get laughed at and ridiculed for attempting something like this, but that's just me.

Sorry Humberto...I was typing as you were also.
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Old 8/18/07, 8:04 PM
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Humberto, so you agree with me that our SOP does not cover it? That our SOP tells us only WHAT to inspect, correct? It asks us to inspect stuff without telling us what is correct or incorrect. I'll use the spindle spacing as an example again.
As well it shouldn't. I have state and city considerations I have to take into account in addition to the ICC codes. You want to throw another one in now? Makes no sense to me.
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