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Old 9/10/08, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: NACHI Tv Not Approved?

That's not to say that NACHI.TV/Reports, Inc. aren't involved in the development/production of some courses, but NACHI.TV is not the educational vendor, InterNACHI is.
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Old 9/10/08, 10:06 PM
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NACHI.TV is owned and operated by Reports, Inc, a separate for-profit company. NACHI.TV produces online video content specifically for home inspectors.

InterNACHI is a non-profit company. InterNACHI provides a number of online courses for home inspectors. InterNACHI has partnered with NACHI.TV to produce a few advanced courses that utilize NACHI.TV video technology. NACHI.TV does not provide online education--InterNACHI does. NACHI.TV just provides the technology and production capabilities.

InterNACHI is the education vendor. NACHI.TV is the technology vendor.
What he said.

(Thanks for having my back, Chris. BTW: GREAT new site!!!)



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Old 9/10/08, 10:12 PM
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Maybe I am not clear on the specifics. Ask Nick.
So much for helping me with MY denseness....you drooling idiot.



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Old 9/10/08, 10:36 PM
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Why does it always have to come down to name calling? James had a question, and was unclear. Is it wrong to keep asking questions until your clear and understanding? I know James is upset with NACHI TV as I have read his threads, but is he not entitled to be upset? Is he not entitled to question things about his organization? I am not defending him, but hell I can see where I may be unclear about something and want to ask without being called an idiot.

I read a tag line that says "Learn, educate, serve and have fun doing it"...All I see is, see it my may, be called a name, and then belittle the person in an open forum.

Once again, this is all in my humble opinion

As the great orator Rodney King Said "Can't we all just get along?"
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Old 9/10/08, 10:47 PM
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Russ, you make a good point.

In respose, and not as an excuse, I would say this.

Jim has had a habit of stalking people, just so he could disagree with them. When he was on the ESOP, he had a habit of "playing G-d", where he would bully those on the board and threaten them. Now, for some reason, he seems to be down on Nick and NACHI, so he asks idiotic questions (tell me you didn't understand Nick's first answer to the question). This is a common technique for rabble rousers.

The answer was clear, but Jim kept asking, again and again, with a heavy dose of innuedno. He does not like that NACHI makes money or that some vendors make money through NACHI. Yet, he claims to be the last, true entrepenure (sp) and hates ANY intrusion into his business.

It's like he feels that he can question everyone elses business (and, more disturbingly, their motivations) and that no one can question his.

Let's just say that Jim and I disagree, but Jim seems to make a habit out of also being disagreeable. he also does not like when people treat him the same way he treats others.



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Old 9/10/08, 10:52 PM
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Russ --- Like the rest of us, you will soon find that Decker is the smartest guy he knows and wants to educate the rest of us.

We mostly laugh at him until, sometimes, he gets a little too rowdy and has to be ***** slapped.

He will then give some excuse to justify his feminine nature of wanting to help everyone with everything. Even the AHJ's in his town have to hear how little they know and how much he knows. Why should he spare us, right?



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Old 9/10/08, 10:55 PM
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Russ --- Like the rest of us, you will soon find that Decker is the smartest guy he knows and wants to educate the rest of us.

We mostly laugh at him until, sometimes, he gets a little too rowdy and has to be ***** slapped.

He will then give some excuse to justify his feminine nature of wanting to help everyone with everything. Even the AHJ's in his town have to hear how little they know and how much he knows. Why should he spare us, right?
I rest my case.

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Old 9/10/08, 10:55 PM
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If more people asked more questions their would be less chance that questionable practices would be less likely manifest do to the fear of being discovered. I don't have a side for or against but I have been able to take a lot of information from all those who post. Thanks to all for taking the time to participate in the forums.
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Old 9/10/08, 10:56 PM
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Fair enough....I do not know all the underlying circumstances and the past instances that have happened. Once again, I applaud Nick and his implamenting NACHI...if I am not mistaking, ANYONE can create their own organization. But ya gotta put your nads and money out there and roll the dice...Not many willing to do that. I too have a cash cow, its called HOME INSPECTIONS!...Thanks to this organization I have let my cow graze and its getting beefier every year. So if my cash cow has to feed another cash cow ...NACHI, isn't that the purpose of commerce? One feeds another and we all make money? Take care


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Old 9/10/08, 11:05 PM
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My question was not answered, though Chris came close.

NACHI Tv claims to produce and provide education...which I gain from Chris's explanation, this is nothing but typical Gromicko hyperbole. If I understand Chris, NACHI Tv supplies technical support to NACHI who provides the education.

But NACHI is not for profit. The money it charges for the videos goes where, if not to NACHI or NACHI Tv?

And who owns Reports, Inc.?



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Old 9/10/08, 11:10 PM
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Now I'm gonna be dense and ask an off the wall question.

Who cares? Personally, I always thought Noel Zak and the crew over at NHIE was the true owners.
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Old 9/10/08, 11:11 PM
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Never mind. I just found out.



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Old 9/10/08, 11:16 PM
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It's a strategic partnership. InterNACHI doesn't have the online video technology that NACHI.TV has and NACHI.TV doesn't have the online course system that InterNACHI does.

Nobody recouped a nickle yet. Many pitched in and have skin in the game though. John McKenna is owed some money first as he has what amounts to a royalty on gross sales for the material and work he provided for one of the courses at his expense. We met with Ron Huffman this morning. He is an engineer, InterNACHI member, ASHI member, and expert witness. I think we hammered out a similar deal with him for an upcoming series on EIFS, although I wasn't part of that negotiation today. PRO-LAB has some skin in it too as their sales force sells some of the shows on commission, they paid for Dr. Shane's contribution, and they put up some initial funding, Chris has some skin in it as he does much of NACHI.TV's ongoing, never ending tech work. The Ben/Kenton team did a lot of work too and haven't been paid a penny either. We also have a deal with the insurance industry to produce training courses for InterNACHI members to do their storm damage inspections. I'm probably forgeting some people. Anyway, it's almost become one big industry-wide project and couldn't be done within non-profit, tax-exempt InterNACHI. Others aren't owed anything but they sure donated much in trying to get the pig to fly. Well, anyway, it's flying. Needs a little lipstick, but it's flying. 50 informational, educational, entertaining episodes to date.



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Old 9/10/08, 11:23 PM
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NACHI Tv claims to produce and provide education...which I gain from Chris's explanation, this is nothing but typical Gromicko hyperbole. If I understand Chris, NACHI Tv supplies technical support to NACHI who provides the education.

But NACHI is not for profit. The money it charges for the videos goes where, if not to NACHI or NACHI Tv?
First, as I said elsewhere:

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InterNACHI provides online education in partnership with NACHI.TV. InterNACHI is the education vendor in that we co-develop the course material and manage the testing/certificate/logging. NACHI.TV provides video technology, production and co-development.
That said, there are a lot of costs involved in the co-development of the course, plus the production and technology to host/stream those videos. The fee NACHI.TV charges for its advanced education videos offsets some of those costs (though, as of right now, not all of them).

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And who owns Reports, Inc.?
Nick and I co-founded Reports, Inc. I have since purchased his stock in the company.
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Old 9/10/08, 11:24 PM
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Now I'm gonna be dense and ask an off the wall question.

Who cares? Personally, I always thought Noel Zak and the crew over at NHIE was the true owners.
...and now you know that ASHI still owns its test, the NHIE, lock-stock-and barrel.

But what got me looking into NACHI Tv was when Ben Gromicko first began hyping a video he produced on crawlspaces where he was encouraging inspectors (in his hyped up advertising) to enter wet crawlspaces of 18".

I thought, then, that such irresponsibility had no place in presenting actual training to home inspectors....especially here, where we have so many guys yet to perform their first inspection.

Then came the video...and the message board hyperbole....encouraging inspectors to report a 2004 water heater as "defective" after some unsubstantiated and unresearched claim was made on a NACHI Tv video that some official determination had been made that these heaters will not last more than "3 to 5 years".

In that we no longer have an Education Committee to review and screen what is provided to us in the form of "education" we have to trust our vendors.

But....according to Nick....NACHI Tv is not a vendor. It has so NACHI seal of approval as a vendor...and Chris says it simply provides technical support to a Nick Gromicko owned company called Reports, Inc.

Ben's claims contradict this throughout the message board...but then, Ben thinks that 2004 water heaters have three years to live and we should all be slipping and sliding around in wet crawlspaces.

It has been a confusing journey trying to acquire these facts.

Bottom line: We need a filter between the providers of education and the recipients.



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