"Letter to a Christian Nation"

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Saved before joey realizes how many people he just directly insulted by calling them essentially murders..

Mikey... If the shoe fits then you better wear it. I stand by my words how about you.

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by kpierce

Touche'.

My point is that the current great threat is that of the Muslim extremists.

And at no point in history have these fundamentalists been so close to a means of catastrophic destruction of civilization.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

And now for something entirely different... Atheist Christmas Cards!

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

The "Christmas Wingnut Season" (CWS) is now upon us and the Wingnuts never fail to amuse.

Happy Holidays Everyone!

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Saved before joey realizes how many people he just directly insulted by calling them essentially murders..

Mike, put the bong down and step back from the keyboard

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by gbeaumont

Mike, put the bong down and step back from the keyboard

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." ~ Denis Diderot

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[klott]

Originally Posted by kpierce

Ok. The Bible specifically uses the word fear in a very direct manner. You, and many others, have tried to sugar coat it by purposefully labeling god's intent as if you have the right to do so. No where in the Bible does it say that it is to be changed and interpreted by men and twisted to fit a specific agenda. On the contrary, It's stated many times throughout the Bible that the gospel is to be taken in it's entirety. Yet you all insist that you can pick and choose which verses are literal and which are allegorical. Explain why.

This has nothing to do with literal or allegorical, the same word/words, in the bible have many different meanings. "Fear" in English is a lot different than "Fear" in Hebrew or Greek, I realize this is probably very difficult for you to understand, but please try!

[klott]

Originally Posted by kpierce

Let's note that there's been absolutely no rebuttal about the fact that Jesus was not born of a virgin.

Prove it!

[klott]

Originally Posted by mbazzo

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Originally Posted by kpierce
Ok. The Bible specifically uses the word fear in a very direct manner. You, and many others, have tried to sugar coat it by purposefully labeling god's intent as if you have the right to do so. No where in the Bible does it say that it is to be changed and interpreted by men and twisted to fit a specific agenda. On the contrary, It's stated many times throughout the Bible that the gospel is to be taken in it's entirety. How is it to be taken in it's entirety? All literally or Allegorically?Yet you all insist that you can pick and choose which verses are literal and which are allegorical. Explain why. Once again, we use our intelligence and discernment,( Gifts from God) however as you have proven over and over, God gives gifts to whom he chooses, worthy of such gifts. Sorry you did not receive these two.
Hmmm. Try again. About the virgin thingy?

[klott]

Originally Posted by mlarson

A young woman is most often a virgin so I don't think it's the misunderstanding you imagine that it is.

It doesn't change Mathew's account of the events surrounding Jesus' birth.
Mathew was clearly aware of the text from Isaiah when he quoted it. Mathew is quoting Issaiah in vs 23.

Conception and Birth of Jesus

18Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His (L)mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was (M)found to be with child by the Holy Spirit. 19And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man and not wanting to disgrace her, planned [c](N)to send her away secretly.
20But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "(O)Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been [d]conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
21"She will bear a Son; and (P)you shall call His name Jesus, for He (Q)will save His people from their sins."
22Now all this took place to fulfill what was (R)spoken by the Lord through the prophet:
23"(S)BEHOLD, THE VIRGIN SHALL BE WITH (T)CHILD AND SHALL BEAR A SON, AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL," which translated means, "(U)GOD WITH US."
24And Joseph awoke from his sleep and did as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took Mary as his wife,
25[e]but kept her a virgin until she (V)gave birth to a Son; and (W)he called His name Jesus.

Michael, Kevin does not understand what virgin means, todays definition for Virgin, is an ugly 3rd grader, quite a different meaning from biblical times. Please cut him some slack.

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by klott

"Fear" in English is a lot different than "Fear" in Hebrew or Greek

Yes, Kennth, we've confirmed that the English version is all out of whack.

[klott]

No Kevin, we havew confirmed that it you, who is all out of whack, you would do well to quit listening to your uncle joey.

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by klott

No Kevin, we havew confirmed that it you, who is all out of whack, you would do well to quit listening to your uncle joey.

Quit being silly chief.

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by klott

Michael, Kevin does not understand what virgin means, todays definition for Virgin, is an ugly 3rd grader, quite a different meaning from biblical times.

I can honestly say I couldn't have dreamed of that type spin. Huh. You guys go to great lengths.