I like a Yes-We-Can attitude, but Obama takes the cake.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by gromicko

A portion of Ford employee's taxes are going to financially support their competitors.

Taxes go to support everyones competitors Nick. This is news???

[Michael J. Merino]

The government should not be involved with the private sector, Period. I do not care what side of the aisle you are on. There never should have been any bailouts. These companies, like us, have made their business decisions. If they fail then they fail. The failure would be good for them, they would learn something. We are bailing them out because the morons in congress who forced much of the housing industry to make these subprime loans are trying to cover their butts.

The government has never run anything well, or even made a profit, see the postal service. The only people who can get us out of this is the private sector. We are out of money according to Obama, we are bailing out companies by monetizing the debt, see what happened to Zimbawa when they monetized their debt, 231 MILLION PERCENT INFLATION. We are heading for hyper inflation because we are printing all this money. Now he wants us to pay for health care. TOTAL BS.

Brian, say my business fails. Are you willing to give me any of your money so I can pay off my debt and start again? I bet you don't answer.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Send me the bet money. No.

Government picks and chooses vendors every day to build things, arm people, etc etc.

Unlike you Michael I believe the Govt has done a better job than Big bidness providing me with safe drugs, safe roads, clean water to drink, safe food and on and on.

Don't like American Govt, move, I'll fund your ticket.

[Nick Gromicko]

Taxes go to support everyones competitors Nick. This is news???

GM's competitor (Ford) didn't get an extra $50 billion of taxpayer money to compete against GM.

[Michael J. Merino]

Brian, Then why do you want your tax dollars to bail out GM or AIG because of their poor decisions?

You miss the point. The things you listed is what the government should do. Their primary responsibility is to protect the country and it's citizens. Not tell GM what kind of cars we want. As far as them picking vendors, doesn't it always seem to be somone they are related to or got a campaign contribution from? They do a great job. I say if you want to live like a socialist then move to Europe, I will stay here and fight to keep my country free.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by gromicko

GM's competitor (Ford) didn't get an extra $50 billion of taxpayer money.

Whatever Nick, taxpayer subsidies are paid to almost every large business in the country in many different forms. Either you are against ALL subsidies, or you are just full of crap.

[Michael J. Merino]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Whatever Nick, taxpayer subsidies are paid to almost every large business in the country in many different forms. Either you are against ALL subsidies, or you are just full of crap.

Can you give examples of what corporations get subsidies?

[Michael J. Merino]

Just for the record I am not trying to fight with anyone. You believe what you want to believe, I just want to offer something to think about.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mmerino

Can you give examples of what corporations get subsidies?

Do you not have acces to Google Michael????
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...zed+industries

[Steven C. Waskewicz]

here's something to think about

I predict GM will be the next AMTRAK.

They haven't made money in 30 years, and we keep funding that?

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by swaskewicz

here's something to think about

I predict GM will be the next AMTRAK.

They haven't made money in 30 years, and we keep funding that?

And the Military has never made any money, what is your point Stephen???? Nor has congress, nor has the FDA. Where do you people come from???

[Nick Gromicko]

InterNACHI had 52 new members join this month (and it is only the 4th!). Should taxpayers be forced to send ASHI a check because they can't compete with InterNACHI?

[Michael J. Merino]

Brian, The government should not be subsidizing any of those industries, which is my point. They should stay out of it causes prices to go up and our taxes to go up. I am against it.

You can't be serious comparing the military to Amtrak.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mmerino

Brian, The government should not be subsidizing any of those industries, which is my point. They should stay out of it causes prices to go up and our taxes to go up. I am against it.

You can't be serious comparing the military to Amtrak.

Why not compare the Military to Amtrak?? Why does everything the Govt spends money on have to show a monetary profit? That makes no sense whatsoever.

Well they are subsidising ALL those industries, not to mention all the STATE and LOCAL govt tax breaks used to entice business in their areas.

We my friends are the Govt, we are responsible for what takes place in our country. "All politics are local".

[Nick Gromicko]

And the Military has never made any money, what is your point Stephen???? Nor has congress, nor has the FDA. Where do you people come from???

Uh, the military, congress and the FDA aren't for-profit companies. GM was. GM lost.

Ford hustled harder, worked more efficiently, made smarter moves, and finally defeated their competitor, fair and square. They deserve to pop champagne. But now they have to go back on the field and beat them again with a $50 billion dollar disadvantage, provided (in part) with the taxes from the profits FORD earned!