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Please no lectures on SOP, liability or...
Are you aware of a standardized test for residential microwave oven equipment? AHS is refusing another clients request for repair. What test method do you use? Here's what I have from some manuals: Please check the following before calling for service: 1. Place one cup of water in a glass measuring cup in the microwave oven and close the door securely. Operate the microwave oven for one minute at HIGH 100%. A Does the microwave oven light come on? YES _____ NO _____ B Does the cooling fan work? YES _____ NO _____ (Put your hand over the rear ventilating openings.) C Does the turntable rotate? YES _____ NO _____ (It is normal for the turntable to turn in either direction.) D Is the water in the microwave oven warm? YES _____ NO _____ ADAIR INSPECTION 972-487-5634 Commercial-Residential-Construction-EIFS-Infrared Thermography TREC # 4563 EDI: EIFS-MA TX # 39 2008 US Member of the Year life is the random lottery of events followed by numerous narrow escapes accept the good |
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I DO NOT inspect portable appliances and my agreement states that. Only built-in appliances such as Stoves, Wall Ovens, Dishwashers, etc.
If it can be moved, it's not inspected. |
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Barry,
95% of the microwave ovens I encounter are built-in and usually include the range hood and stove light. I use Mr. Microwave Magic Lights for $6 ea from http://www.electronix.com/catalog/pr...oducts_id/5445
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Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 |
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I use a device similar to Mike's and Nick's - a microwave leak detector.
IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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The tribbles actually exist?
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InterNACHI member Phil Gage's wife makes them for us. We've shipped many thousands of them over the past 2 years.
Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 |
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A hamster wrapped in electrical tape on high for 3.5 minutes. If it cooks without exploding it passes.
Knowledge is power, but sharing knowledge brings peace! http://www.psinspection.com TREC License# 7593 Professional Real Estate Inspections for the counties of Collin, Rockwall, Hunt, Dallas, Tarrant, Kaufman and all surrounding areas. If you want the the best you will find it with PS Inspection & Property Services LLC! |
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Dang it Manny!, now everyone knows the secret to making the tribbles: http://www.nachi.org/tribbles.htm
Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 |
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Nick,
I've tried the Tribbles but when you miss lunch they don't taste so good warm! Now hamsters with a dash of Tobasco, Ummm Yummy!! Actually send me some tribbles. Do these cost much to make with the NACHI logo on them? They would make great ice breakers when giving presentations or speaking in groups, etc. Knowledge is power, but sharing knowledge brings peace! http://www.psinspection.com TREC License# 7593 Professional Real Estate Inspections for the counties of Collin, Rockwall, Hunt, Dallas, Tarrant, Kaufman and all surrounding areas. If you want the the best you will find it with PS Inspection & Property Services LLC! |
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Tribbles and blinking lights do not tell the client anything about measurable heating whether the unit is or is not functioning properly. Not like setting an oven a 350°F
I've always said a cup of tap water for 1 minute at high should be at least 120°F otherwise just wait for the sink supply in most homes. I also carry microwave popcorn and will pop a bag for function and snacking on vacant properties and will ask permission on occupied. The issue on this one instance is a $900.00 unit that requires repair or replacement and the warranty co. does not want to honor their agreement. I was just curious what test methods were used by others. HNY BTW ADAIR INSPECTION 972-487-5634 Commercial-Residential-Construction-EIFS-Infrared Thermography TREC # 4563 EDI: EIFS-MA TX # 39 2008 US Member of the Year life is the random lottery of events followed by numerous narrow escapes accept the good |
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Barry,
For the most part a microwave oven is either on or off. No in between. Power levels are manipulated by percentage of on vs. off time for most microwaves. You can read all about it HERE Here is an INDEX IMHO, if it blinks the tester lights, heats the tribble or pops the popcorn it's working as far as an HI is concerned. Have a great New Year of 2008 |
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Warranty co. says my 1 minute test along with the NACHI light tester is inferior and should be tested on high for 2 1/2 minutes this should boil water 212°F in most units
Unit in question will only get to 200°F by their own time and test, "but that is close enough" they say. Glad I don't have to eat their cooking ADAIR INSPECTION 972-487-5634 Commercial-Residential-Construction-EIFS-Infrared Thermography TREC # 4563 EDI: EIFS-MA TX # 39 2008 US Member of the Year life is the random lottery of events followed by numerous narrow escapes accept the good |
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How hot the water gets after 2 1/2 minutes depends on: the starting temp of the water the power output of the microwave Power level setting of the microwave I have had both low and high power microwaves. Perhaps your client is just used to a different type of unit. It takes some getting used to going between the units. I have the same problem between my travel trailer and the house. They do not act the same. Find out the mfg. rating for the microwave in question. |
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Mark Nahrgang www.DaytonSpringfieldHomeInspector.com www.HeyMark.info Home Inspections for Springfield, Dayton, and surrounding OH areas. |
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