New CMI Requirement

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jbowman

I agree. Perhaps you should consider joining the ranks of the designated CMI and drop your NACHI dues. Look at the benefits:

1. No more annual dues.
2. No more annual testing.
3. No ID requirements.
4. No attend a chapter meeting requirement.
5. No committees to contend with.
6. No CE requirements.
7. No requirement to belong to an association or society.
8. Less Vendors involved.
9. Insurance Breaks.
10. Prestige.
11. Power.
12. Promotional Prowess.
13. Prominence.

NACHI is obviously not concerned if you drop your NACHI membership and dues for the CMI organization. NACHI in fact, encourages all of our members to join the ranks of the CMI organization as soon as you qualify.

Too bad you don't qualify, John. We could use the fresh air.

[John McKenna]

I know of engineers who have taken hundreds of hours of HI courses and still
failed the TREC test the first time around. Yet they were masters in their field.

I know a master electrician who is like a child lost in the woods when it comes
to knowing the wide spectrum of details that a home inspector has to know.
Yet he is a master in his field.

My point is... home inspectors are unique, in that they are called upon to
examine the masters of several trades and professions. But, the masters of
other fields cannot step out and do the home inspectors job correctly. So
lets give the home inspector a little credit.

The word "master" stirs images of many things and yet none of those
images describes the job of a home inspector. CMI is defining that
meaning within a reasonable frame of reference, right now.

For every master electrician you show me, I can find one who does
crummy work. His education and years did not change his lower nature.
There is no guarantee that CMI will be Gods gift to man. But we
are seeking to raise the bar to a level that will recognize a worthy
achievement.

All the other requirements are still in place. This was added to
qualify a more mature CMI, so that a book worm might not slip in,
without field experience. I think it will be a benefit.

The main thing now... is for all CMI's to raise their prices and market
this thing like it needs to be. CMI's have something to be proud of.

BTW... I don't get my feelings hurt.
The NACHI forum is a pleasant mental excesses for me. I enjoy
the debate. I enjoy watching a man tell me what he believes.

I told Russell, the new NACHI VP, that his welcome initiation on the
NACHI forum is kinda like getting beat up in the school yard by
several boys at one time. They all like you in the end, if you don't
start crying and running home. We had a good laugh about that.

I am thankful that we have something positive to look forward to now,
instead of wondering if the whole CMI thing was going to be flushed
down the tube by someone's personal marketing schemes (notice I
did not mention anyone's name).

Hey, I am even getting mail now from some who have changed their
mind and are talking about becoming a CMI, just because we are
pushing this thing in the right direction. I am excited.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbowman

I agree. Perhaps you should consider joining the ranks of the designated CMI and drop your NACHI dues. Look at the benefits:

1. No more annual dues.
2. No more annual testing.
3. No ID requirements.
4. No attend a chapter meeting requirement.
5. No committees to contend with.
6. No CE requirements.
7. No requirement to belong to an association or society.
8. Less Vendors involved.
9. Insurance Breaks.
10. Prestige.
11. Power.
12. Promotional Prowess.
13. Prominence.

NACHI is obviously not concerned if you drop your NACHI membership and dues for the CMI organization. NACHI in fact, encourages all of our members to join the ranks of the CMI organization as soon as you qualify.

I cant quit NACHI. I'm the prez of the Southern Colorado Chapter. I have to be a member to do that. Thats one way some CMIs can help other inspectors. And our chapter encourages other association members to attend.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jbowman

I agree. Perhaps you should consider joining the ranks of the designated CMI and drop your NACHI dues. Look at the benefits:

1. No more annual dues.
2. No more annual testing.
3. No ID requirements.
4. No attend a chapter meeting requirement.
5. No committees to contend with.
6. No CE requirements.
7. No requirement to belong to an association or society.
8. Less Vendors involved.
9. Insurance Breaks.
10. Prestige.
11. Power.
12. Promotional Prowess.
13. Prominence.

NACHI is obviously not concerned if you drop your NACHI membership and dues for the CMI organization. NACHI in fact, encourages all of our members to join the ranks of the CMI organization as soon as you qualify.

Your efforts to exaggerate do not make a good debate... but reveal a
dormant resentment, that if allowed to express it self openly, would get
you in trouble. It's a miserable life to die an embittered old man.

Nick created and promotes CMI... so why would you mock and
attack it? Your digging a hole my friend. Nick is not dumb enough
to create CMI, if he had an ounce of concern that it would hurt
or hinder NACHI members. Your suppose to be part of the team John.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

John
You can tell Russel along with all the other venders that they are welcome to Log in and advertise on the CMI MB also. Anything related to home or building inspection is welcome http://www.certifiedmaster.com/forum/index.php?

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

Your efforts to exaggerate do not make a good debate... but reveal a
dormant resentment, that if allowed to express it self openly, would get
you in trouble. It's a miserable life to die an embittered old man.

Nick created and promotes CMI... so why would you mock and
attack it? Your digging a hole my friend. Nick is not dumb enough
to create CMI, if he had an ounce of concern that it would hurt
or hinder NACHI members. Your suppose to be part of the team John.

Nothing is meant to mock or attack the CMI orgnization. Never will this CMI Program hurt NACHI. And as far as Nick is concerned, you will have to ask him. I (unlike others) do not speak on his behalf. But IMO he wouldn't care. Follow the money and look at the NACHI numbers. Hell, we kick more people out in a week with the "Dead Wood" project, than we would ever be concerned with the CMI organization.

It is truly a great benefit and money saver for any inspector that is qualified.

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by hvalenzano

John
You can tell Russel along with all the other venders that they are welcome to Log in and advertise on the CMI MB also. Anything related to home or building inspection is welcome http://www.certifiedmaster.com/forum/index.php?

Sure will.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jbowman

Nothing is meant to mock or attack the CMI orgnization. Never will this CMI Program hurt NACHI. And as far as Nick is concerned, you will have to ask him. I (unlike others) do not speak on his behalf. But IMO he wouldn't care. Follow the money and look at the NACHI numbers. Hell, we kick more people out in a week with the "Dead Wood" project, than we would ever be concerned with the CMI organization.

It is truly a great benefit and money saver for any inspector that is qualified.

OK.. it's nice to hear from your other side now.
I like this side of you. Please don't turn the channel.

[Michael W. Gault]

John B may not make the most PC posts on the board, but I do believe he has only the best interests of the membership (as a whole) in mind most of the time.

Sorry for the thread drift....

CMI will become important to me if I ever hear anyone ask if I am one... till then, I have trouble keeping up with uploading my CE let alone anything else!...

Maybe in a year or two FetchReport will be the report database from which to draw the required numbers... I hope

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by dpeterson

Mr Bowman,
Not the most professional response from NACHI senior leadership. I expect and demand MORE.

Perhaps if you pointed out what in my post is inaccurate or upsets you, I could change my ways and meet your more demanding needs.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by mgault

John B may not make the most PC posts on the board, but I do believe he has only the best interests of the memebrship (as a whole) in mind most of the time.

Sorry for the thread drift....

CMI will become inportant to me if I ever hear anyone ask if I am one... till then, I have trouble keeping up with uploading my CE let alone anything else!...

Maybe in a year or two FetchReport will be the report datababse from which to draw the required numbers... I hope

Many people don't know about CMI yet. ( Customer wise ) Thats why we have to advertise it. when realtors and customers see it on my truck and advertisement they always want to find out more. All we can do is advertise. Make it known to the realestate industry. I even have web sites just to advertise CMI.

[Michael W. Gault]

I know Henry...

Every bit of 'branding' success it directly tied to the marketing of that brand...


I'm just saying it's not that important for me to distinguish myself in any other way than just doing the best inspections I can do....

[Michael W. Gault]

But when I do fill out the apps, I'll looking for those cool Gold Seals for my truck!

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by mgault

I know Henry...

Every bit of 'branding' success it directly tied to the marketing of that brand...


I'm just saying it's not that important for me to distinguish myself in any other way than just doing the best inspections I can do....

As long as your as busy as you want to be then it is working for you.

When your ready for them gold labels we have them available.

[Donald R. Peterson]

Originally Posted by mgault

John B may not make the most PC posts on the board, but I do believe he has only the best interests of the membership (as a whole) in mind most of the time.

Sorry for the thread drift....

CMI will become important to me if I ever hear anyone ask if I am one... till then, I have trouble keeping up with uploading my CE let alone anything else!...

Maybe in a year or two FetchReport will be the report database from which to draw the required numbers... I hope

Mr Gualt,
Are you a Certified Master Inspector?
Now you have a reason to fill out the application.