New International Standards of Practice for Inspecting Commercial Property.

[Nick Gromicko]

http://www.nachi.org/comsop

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

http://www.nachi.org/comsop

Nick

Maybe you should charge for this!! at least to non-members

I have one suggestion;

II. The inspector is not required to:

G. Move drop ceiling tiles.

Nick IMO The buyer is paying us to move or lift ceiling tiles we can see many systems ie. Electrical,HVAC etc. Are you sure you want this (G) item excluded?

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[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

Nick

Maybe you should charge for this!! at least to non-members

I have one suggestion;




II. The inspector is not required to:

G. Move drop ceiling tiles.

Nick IMO The buyer is paying us to move or lift ceiling tiles we can see many systems ie. Electrical,HVAC etc. Are you sure you want this (G) item excluded?

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I did not read the standards ...but if this quotation is present it definitely needs removal.

50% of the important aspects of a commercial building are above the drop ceiling.

I also put in my agreement if any tiles are damaged from removal to do the inspection my client is responsible for the replacement costs.

But I have never broken one....fought my ***** of trying to get some back in, that's about it.

But they need to be removed in different locations so you can see the whole picture.

Her in AZ many buildings without Package H-C Units on the roof have Air Handlers above the ceiling...a view is mandatory for my inspections.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

With respect, I do not agree. I will remove some tiles to look at something, but I do not want to be required to remove every tile.

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by gromicko

http://www.nachi.org/comsop

It does look great though Nick...good work who ever did it.

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by jbraun

With respect, I do not agree. I will remove some tiles to look at something, but I do not want to be required to remove every tile.

Every tile?

I'm I missing something?

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by jbraun

With respect, I do not agree. I will remove some tiles to look at something, but I do not want to be required to remove every tile.

James

We are not talking about removing all ceiling tiles.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by dduffy

I did not read the standards ...but if this quotation is present it definitely needs removal.

50% of the important aspects of a commercial building are above the drop ceiling.

I also put in my agreement if any tiles are damaged from removal to do the inspection my client is responsible for the replacement costs.

But I have never broken one....fought my ***** of trying to get some back in, that's about it.

But they need to be removed in different locations so you can see the whole picture.

Her in AZ many buildings without Package H-C Units on the roof have Air Handlers above the ceiling...a view is mandatory for my inspections.

Totally agree Dale!!!

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

Totally agree Dale!!!

It's simply great to be a builder in a past life) "A" Mario....... ...me anyway....

Hope your doing fine up there...and I'll see you in Vegas (if you go-to the convention).......

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by dduffy

It's simply great to be a builder in a past life) "A" Mario....... ...me anyway....

Hope your doing fine up there...and I'll see you in Vegas (if you go-to the convention).......

Dale

I will be going to Vegas for sure!!

And I served my entire apprenticeship in the Industrial/Commercial sector of the construction industry. I have installed thousands of square feet of T-Bar.
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[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

Dale

I will be going to Vegas for sure!!

And I served my entire apprenticeship in the Industrial/Commercial sector of the construction industry. I have installed thousands of square feet of T-Bar.
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Me too....both...going to Vegas...and installed thousands of sq. ft. of drop ceiling grid/w panels................arrrrrrg...man I hated that......!!!!


Oops.....I never hated going to Vegas....sorry...had to edit...!!!!

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by dduffy

Me too....both...going to Vegas...and installed thousands of sq. ft. of drop ceiling grid/w panels................arrrrrrg...man I hated that......!!!!


Oops.....I never hated going to Vegas....sorry...had to edit...!!!!

Dale

Remind me to tell you about 1000' of ceiling I did in Daytona,Florida when I see you in Vegas!!

[James E. Braun, CMI]

So what happens if there is a structural problem underneath the ceiling tiles that was missed? Is it not better to let the inspector exceed the SOPs by than to open this area for litigation? It is written that it is "not required" to protect you. You should and always exceed the SOPs when you are comfortable doing so to better serve your customer.

[gporter]

remove every other one or every third. Stick your head in there and look around

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by jbraun

So what happens if there is a structural problem underneath the ceiling tiles that was missed? Is it not better to let the inspector exceed the SOPs by than to open this area for litigation? It is written that it is "not required" to protect you. You should and always exceed the SOPs when you are comfortable doing so to better serve your customer.

James I don't drink.

But I'm having a hard time following you.

I use the SOP as a minimum standard to go with...in case a client just might want to pay for that.

My agreement in writing explains word for word what will be inspected and what will not be inspected.

Depends on what they want to pay for.