Nick built the NACHI house....at the ITA Marketing Meeting!

[Joe Lyvers, CMI]

Great posts Tom. I like your enthusiasm. I agree that Nick is a great motivator. Too bad the doomsayers on this board have given you no slack. It seems they were dead wrong about your supposed vendor status and your experience as a home inspector. What say they now?

[Doug Edwards]

Sure got quiet.

[trausch]

Joe Lyvers - thanks for the encouragement - it's great to get to know you on the message board - I hope to meet you on my next trip to Florida - please keep in touch.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jlyvers

Great posts Tom. I like your enthusiasm. I agree that Nick is a great motivator. Too bad the doomsayers on this board have given you no slack. It seems they were dead wrong about your supposed vendor status and your experience as a home inspector. What say they now?

What the hell, I'll take a shot; From where I sit it appears that although Tom claims he is an active inspector my guess is that Tom's ambition is to leave the inspection world for the greener pastures of teaching inspection theory to deep-pocket newbies with the promise that in 100 or so hours can turn a burger-flipper into a CMI, for a tidy fee of course. Am I close?

[Nick Gromicko]

I love when Joe B. sets up ducks like this for me to shoot... here goes...

150 hours Joe? Ah... that would be 150 hours more than the entrance requirements of four of five other organizations in your state of Florida... None but NACHI have any entrance requirements whatsoever. Not bashing Florida... just stating a fact.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it goes something like this....

ASHI: "Just send us money, welcome to the profession"
NAHI: "Just send us money, welcome to the profession, by the way... feel free to correct any defects you find"
FABI: "Just do one inspection, send us money, welcome to the profession"
State of FL: "Keep your money for now, welcome to the profession, welcome your Aunt Penny too, you're all inspectors!"

I'd say 150 hours of Continuing Education is quite a bit better than what you all have going on in FL now. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

Ahhhhh.... that is so much fun. . Thanks Joe! Go round up some more ducks for me.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by trausch

Guys - to answer a few of your questions - I have approximately 4,500 fee paid inspections over 8 plus years in the business as a full-time inspector. I still am a full-time inspector and not a vendor as some of you are assuming. I am a NACHI member who is trying to help Nick and the NACHI organization bring some great training to NACHI members. I hope that this simple explanation will answer some of your assumptions.

Thank you Tom.

Originally Posted by bwiley
I think Greg's point, and it's a good one, is that no inspector who has been in business for six months should be a master at anything simply because of 150 hours of classroom time.

Looking at this post, I had thought it was referring to you.
Keep driving on.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Nick,

Should anyone ever ask you... This is what a real certification looks like.

[lewens]

Greg and Joe
You have got to get off your collective soap boxes.
Larry

[Greg Bell]

You call it a soap box

I call it raising the bar.

To each his own.

[Joe Lyvers, CMI]

Originally Posted by jburkeson

Nick,

Should anyone ever ask you... This is what a real certification looks like.

When I clicked on your referenced site I got this:

Certified Professional Information:


The record you requested was not found. If you feel this message is in error, please contact the webmaster.

Couldn't find a certification exam for home inspectors.

[Joe Lyvers, CMI]

Originally Posted by trausch

Joe Lyvers - thanks for the encouragement - it's great to get to know you on the message board - I hope to meet you on my next trip to Florida - please keep in touch.

Tom, you will be welcomed to visit the Pensacola area any time. If fact, we have our monthly meeting of the Northwest Florida Home Inspectors Association scheduled for next Thursday morning and you are invited to attend. You will meet some great inspectors such as Doug Edwards, Harold Weise and others. We also invite and encourage our vendors to attend our meetings. We like our vendors. If we didn't we wouldn't ask them to join our association.

Nick, the invitation is extended to you as well.

[Joe Lyvers, CMI]

Originally Posted by lewens

Greg and Joe
You have got to get off your collective soap boxes.
Larry

Larry, I gather you are addressing the other Joe.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jlyvers

When I clicked on your referenced site I got this:


Couldn't find a certification exam for home inspectors.

Yeah, it appears that the search criteria is temporary and that ICC does not want people linking to their site in this manner.

Go here and type in ... Burkeson in the Name box, it comes right up.

As far as soapboxes goes. I have a somewhat higher soapbox to stand on than most people do when it comes to talking back to the merchants of fear.

[John Onofrey]

I would like to thank those, on and off their soap boxes. For, well, everything.

Thank you so much!

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jonofrey

I would like to thank those, on and off their soap boxes. For, well, everything.

Thank you so much!

I would really like to take the credit for stopping CMI (no experience required) from becoming an all encompassing Borg-like force within our profession, but alas the freeze CMI has experienced is far beyond my limited power to effect change on that scale.

It is not my rally-monkey like tactics that have slowed its adoption and has stymied our Founders attempts to free CMI from the quagmire of controversy that surrounds it. Au contraire, CMI's current condition rests on the total lack of respect it has received from the greater home inspection profession and the refusal of the true "masters" of our profession to acknowledge this certification above garbage status.

Just one look at the board of directors and then at those who "the board" deems worthy to hold the certification tells a story that needs little explanation, until December 31, 2006 the board is willing to look the other way, any education is acceptable, just make a small contribution of a $175 and you too can sport this new designation.

It is my hope and belief that until there is a mandatory experience clause adopted CMI will remain outside of the accepted and accredited practices acknowledged as worthy by our profession.