Nick why do only Russel's Marketing Forum Members

[lcapaul]

Originally Posted by gbell

Sounds like someone is pissed off because they were not allowed on the other board.

You hit the nail right on the head Greg.

If someone has a question for RR about Marketing, ask him, he's always been more than willing to answer, but why, even as a paid NACHI Advisor, should he be required to post his marketing Programs here, he's here to ADVISE and answer questions for NACHI Members, getting paid for what he's always done. His Marketing Website is free, so are portions of his HomeTeam website.

I am a member of his Marketing site, I don't always agree with the ideas and advice posted there, but there are many interesting and helpful posts there, myself I was disappointed that RR took the position with NACHI after all the crap and bullsh*t he has faced here from bigots among the NACHI membership

[James J. Rooff]

I agree with Lewis. If you don't like one read on untill you find what you think will help your own situation. He is offering IDEAS only, and a lot of good one at that.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by lcapaul

but why, even as a paid NACHI Advisor, should he be required to post his marketing Programs here,

It may be because things that he is paid by NACHI to produce do not belong to him. They belong to NACHI and should be readily accessible to all members of NACHI.

This is Nick's call. I think that the question raised by Wendy is legitimate and has far reaching implications.

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by jbushart

I think that the question raised by Wendy is legitimate and has far reaching implications.

The question raised by Wendy has been answered at least twice that I know of, once in this very thread, but her reading comprehension, and perhaps yours as well, is lacking at times.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by rray

The question raised by Wendy has been answered at least twice that I know of, once in this very thread, but her reading comprehension, and perhaps yours as well, is lacking at times.

She asked Nick a question. I do not find his response anywhere in this thread. Perhaps it is not our reading comprehension that is the issue, Mr. Kirk.

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by jbushart

She asked Nick a question. I do not find his response anywhere in this thread. Perhaps it is not our reading comprehension that is the issue, Mr. Kirk.

Is there a Mr. Kirk here somewhere?

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by wforsyth

SO PLEASE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO HIRE A MARKETING ADVISOR, PLEASE ASK HIM TO HELP ALL OF US, NOT JUST HIS CHOSEN FEW.

You've already made it well-known that you don't want any help from me, so your plea is disingenuous at best.

[lcapaul]

Originally Posted by jbushart

It may be because things that he is paid by NACHI to produce do not belong to him. They belong to NACHI and should be readily accessible to all members of NACHI.

This is Nick's call. I think that the question raised by Wendy is legitimate and has far reaching implications.

You're right, it's Nick's Call, unless you know just what the arrangement between Nick and RR is then you, or I, wouldn't know just what materials and programs that have been developed by RR are available to all NACHI Members. As far as I know RR was hired as an advisor, ask him a question, I'm sure he would "advise" even you.

It appears to me, and was mentioned previously, that RR has attempted to store all his "information" on a NACHI Website, that's Nick's Call too, otherwise like RR says his Marketing Site is open to all, and it's free, and that site is maintained at RR's own expense, not NACHI's, but his site is about Marketing, not personal attacks, and bullsh*t such as "Cookbooks" etc.

His marketing adice is free and available to every NACHI Member, but it is restricted to discussions about Marketing

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by lcapaul

ask him a question, I'm sure he would "advise" even you.

No thanks.

[Russel Ray]

There you have it, and Wendy has said the same, so I'm not sure why those two have so much to say about the situation.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by rray

There you have it, and Wendy has said the same, so I'm not sure why those two have so much to say about the situation.

I am not "saying" anything other than "saying" to those who are attacking Wendy for asking a question that her question is legitimate. You can write your 25 P's (or whatever the hell they are) on the back of a postage stamp with a felt tip pen, as far as I care.

[James H. Bushart]

Lewis,

I am looking at the question from a broader aspect. Remove the names/personalities from the discussion for a moment.

Nick pays me $100 to write an essay on "NACHI and Its Impact on the Mating Habits of Clams" for the benefit of the membership.

I take the money, write the thrilling essay, and instead of putting it on the NACHI site...I publish it on my own, requiring members to subscribe.

Now, I have accumulated 10,000 home inspector email addresses for sale if I so desire and 10,000 or so hits to my website, increasing its rankings exponentially over my competitors.

Is this what is intended by Nick? Only he can answer that question. My bet is, for that kind of return he would expect me to be paying him.

So, Wendy's question - no matter what may have motivated it - is a legitimate question and, IMO, is something that should be addressed at some time and in some fashion (perhaps not in an open forum such as this).

[lcapaul]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Lewis,

I am looking at the question from a broader aspect. Remove the names/personalities from the discussion for a moment.

Nick pays me $100 to write an essay on "NACHI and Its Impact on the Mating Habits of Clams" for the benefit of the membership.

I take the money, write the thrilling essay, and instead of putting it on the NACHI site...I publish it on my own, requiring members to subscribe.

Now, I have accumulated 10,000 home inspector email addresses for sale if I so desire and 10,000 or so hits to my website, increasing its rankings exponentially over my competitors.

Is this what is intended by Nick? Only he can answer that question. My bet is, for that kind of return he would expect me to be paying him.

So, Wendy's question - no matter what may have motivated it - is a legitimate question and, IMO, is something that should be addressed at some time and in some fashion (perhaps not in an open forum such as this).

No James, you're looking at the issue from your normal narrow viewpoint, you don't like someone, so everything they do or say must be wrong, any disagreement with you or other members of your pack are to be considered personal attacks.

When it was announced that RR was becoming a paid NACHI Advisor, somewhere in the earlier posts it was stated that his Marketing Advise and programs would be stored somewhere on NACHI's website, it wouldn't make much sense for him to post them all in a forum on the Message Board where the threads would need to be constantly "bumped" to keep them on top, they should be stored somewhere like where Nick's advice on Brochures, for example, are stored, available to all, and then discussed on the message board, until such a "storage" site is developed, by Chris I would suspect, all of RR's programs are available at his site, at his expense. So just what is you and Ms. Forsyth's problem, neither of you would read or take his advice, and for those of us who may want to read it, and occasionally take it, the information is available. You ***** should be with Nick or Chris for not yet providing the space on NACHI's Website for RR to post his information.

You and Ms. Forsyth imply that RR's advice is totally worthless, so why should you be so worried about wheter or not it is available to anyone?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by lcapaul

No James, you're looking at the issue from your normal narrow viewpoint, you don't like someone, so everything they do or say must be wrong, any disagreement with you or other members of your pack are to be considered personal attacks.

And you, Lewis, are to be considered the objective one in a Wendy-related issue, I presume.

Seriously though, the fact that I think you are wrong about this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I don't like you. Instead, it has everything to do with the question that is being posed: Is it proper for a paid NACHI member to take NACHI owned material (if it, indeed, was) and put it on his own subscription based site where he can accumulate (and sell) member email addresses from those who attempt to obtain this NACHI product. Do you think this is okay to do?

[klott]

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