Obama, after Saddleback.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Please you pompus asshole, sell it to someone else.

See what I mean. When they start calling names, that means that they are losing.

They are so eloquient, ain't they

[relliott]

Mike he says he knows how to find the guy.

Correct, my friend.

[Charles L. Harper]

Be afraid...........be very afraid...............

[bdoles2]

See what I mean. When they start calling names, that means that they are losing.

The only losers here are the ones that truly believe that either of these candidates will make a difference in the next 4 years. They could put Bob the Builder in the White House, and have more of an impact than what we have to choose from.

Here's a motto I've always firmly believed in - Sh!t in, sh!t out.

The next 4 years our government will probably have that tag line on government emails.

JMO

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by bdoles2

The only losers here are the ones that truly believe that either of these candidates will make a difference in the next 4 years.
JMO

Of course, with an attitude like this, you help to make your preduction come true.

You also seem to be saying that there is no difference between these two candidates, which is clearly not true.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by wdecker

Of course, with an attitude like this, you help to make your preduction come true.

You also seem to be saying that there is no difference between these two candidates, which is clearly not true.

When Decker is right, he's right.

You can choose between a lying, cheating, unfaithful Bush wannabe who will help kill more children on foreign soil then any DC abortion clinic... Or you can vote for Obama.

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by wdecker

You also seem to be saying that there is no difference between these two candidates, which is clearly not true.

Oh theres a difference -

1 is an old idiot and the other a young idiot.

[George A. H. Luck]

"When Decker is right, he's right.

You can choose between a lying, cheating, unfaithful Bush wannabe who will help kill more children on foreign soil then any DC abortion clinic... Or you can vote for Obama."

You need mental help.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by gluck

"When Decker is right, he's right.

You can choose between a lying, cheating, unfaithful Bush wannabe who will help kill more children on foreign soil then any DC abortion clinic... Or you can vote for Obama."

You need mental help.

Possible, but can you afford to spare any?

[Jack L. Gilleland]

Originally Posted by bdoles2

Oh theres a difference -

1 is an old idiot and the other a young idiot.

We should all be afraid, very afraid.

These 2 are the best that Washington can come up with. Scares the h_ll out of me.

[Carl A. Brown]

Originally Posted by jgilleland

We should all be afraid, very afraid.

These 2 are the best that Washington can come up with. Scares the h_ll out of me.

Very well put Jack.

[dmcauley]

Normally I do not get involved in the discussion of politics or religion. As of right now I am not convinced either candidate will or can do anything. The point I would like to bring out is, with all this discussion on how things have gone to he** in a handbag with the Senate and/or House of Reps and their inability to solve anything or make life better; Why hasn't either candidate done anything to improve conditions of the legislative arm of the government?

McCain has been in congress for twenty some years and things have not gotten any better as far as pork projects, real help for the middle class, lobbyists, etc. The list goes on.

Obama has not been in congress long enough to gain any type of clout to change things. But he too hasn't initiated any progeam to help all of us.

In my opinion, why didn't either candidate show actual leadership in Congress and make improvements to the list mentioned above? Instead of being out campaigning, stay in congress and get some legislative action on improving the life of the average Joe. Neither had done that. Show us some leadership! Man do we need it now!

Two questions: If McCain is so pro-military why has he voted time and time again against the vets? If Obama has the answer on many issues, why hasn't he stated in plain language a plan to minimize or eliminate the problems?

OK now, let the drivel continue.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jgilleland

We should all be afraid, very afraid.

These 2 are the best that Washington can come up with. Scares the h_ll out of me.

Actually, no. These two are who, out of some 22 different primary candidates, the two political parties chose.

One point on that. At least the Republican choice (which was not my first choice, personally) was made democratically (by voting, one person, one vote) while the Democrat candidate was chosen through a series of manipulations of the vote based upon the Democrat Party rules. Florida and Michigan didn't even get to vote, as an example, and in Texas, Clinton won the popular vote, but Obama got the delegates.

Back to my original point. WE, THE PEOPLE, choose, through the parties, who will be the two candidates. That is why, I believe, that primary voting is MUCH more important than the General Election. Whenever I hear people saying that both candidates are bad, I ask if they voted in the primaries. Almost always, they say no.

Then I tell them that they only have themselves to blame and to quit complaining.

Hope this helps;

[Michael Larson]

Will,

You need to realize that there was plenty of manipulation going on on both sides of the aisle.

One by rules.

One by forming alliances.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Will,

You need to realize that there was plenty of manipulation going on on both sides of the aisle.

One by rules.

One by forming alliances.

I was speaking about the choice of the candidates.

But, as you say, many form alliances by running (both in primaries and in the General) as "third party candidates". They are losers and, I predict, always will be. Greens, "losertarians, constipation, etc; all the parties are losers, but they can detract from the votes of the big two.

And, therefore. manipulate the election.