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mrowan is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Contrary to popular belief, there is no set job description for this position. The primary responsibilities are to ensure that all applications meet the requirements of CMI and that all associations are dealt with fairly. Anything else that falls into this job description can be decided when a formal meeting or conference call takes place.
As far a Jeff Hooper being in charge of anyone, I am sure you know this is just a figment of J. Busharts imagination and his belief that it is raining every day. I am sure that there will need to be a chair of the peer review and maybe a non inspector person could take this position. The people in charge of the peer review for CMI should be dedicated leaders with a proven track record. They should have a good understanding of their association members and have mutual respect for all. Michael |
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Originally Posted by kswift John McKenna: Your response was appreciated and taken to heart. Consequently, I read what you post very carefully, and have been rethinking and trying to understand this whole CMI thing. I really wish we could convene a forum. Have you any idea how this can be instituted? If I was given the task of improving or changing CMI, the first thing I would want to do is communicate with those people who would be most affected by my changes... namely the current CMI members and the CMI board. To disregard their feelings and previous agreements would be to show a complete disrespect for honor and the desire to preserve relationship. If I had to change things that the current CMI people did not like, I would try to put myself in their shoes and think of what would be fair to all. The fact that Nick has stated publicly on this forum things that are 180 degrees different than what Michael is now pushing into motion, leads me to believe that the CMI division will soon look like the grand canyon if something is not done asap. I would recommend a meeting on a private forum between Michael and the current CMI board. Michael should be willing to state in written form (on the forum) all the answers that the current CMI wants to ask him. Nick should be present also. This would limit the confusion factor to those closest to the problem. The results of the forum could then be published and a follow up forum could be set up to continue the process. People who want certain questions answered could submit those questions in writing before the meetings. The results would be published for all to read. Without full disclosure and communication, the hurt feelings of betrayal will only grow worse and more vocal. The new members will suffer and many veteran members in NACHI and CMI will be hurt. IMHO. The idea that we should all wait and let Michael continue to build his version of CMI regardless of the damage done, is not an option. That is the spirit of a violent take over and it will not be pretty in the end. If Nick has to step in after Michael has invested thousands of dollars because things went to far for too long... then that will be ugly too. The attempt by Michael to side step the current CMI people and sell his new creation on the NACHI forum is a direct slap in the face. It is arrogance at the worst and naive at the least. We need full disclosure and communication. I am not asking to be present. I trust Nick and Joe F. to do the right thing. John McKenna, CMI (TREC #4565)
Executive Director - Master Inspector Certification Board 25 Yrs Constr Exp - 13 Yrs Home Inspector Exp American Home Inspection - East Texas. |
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If there is anything illogical or unreasonable about John McKenna's post I'm not able to see it, and his sensible advice should be heeded immediately. The CMI thread is bouncing all over the board and becoming diluted in the process. However, this is not to demean Michael Rowan's efforts in this regard, which I may not fully understand or appreciate as yet.
InterNACHI Vice President, InterNACHI Editor-in-Chief, co-founder CalNACHI Author of Manual For a Happy Home & Inspect & Protect |
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Mr Swift
Your points should be understood by all I speak as a CMI that meets current standards and have many more years in my own business that Mike does. He needs a mentor not a position of leadership. Would you like to take on the job of leader or mentor? In light of your words I would think that Mike should of resign until he has a little more water through his system. rlb |
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John McKenna, CMI (TREC #4565)
Executive Director - Master Inspector Certification Board 25 Yrs Constr Exp - 13 Yrs Home Inspector Exp American Home Inspection - East Texas. |
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The support for his program and position on this issue is underwhelming, to say the least.
James H. Bushart Professional Building Analyst, BPI Missouri, Kansas and Arkansas 314-803-2167 |
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jmichalski is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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Thus far, I see some harping from the usual NACHI sources (Joe, James, etc) in regards to Michael's efforts. The primary and oft-repeated criticisms seem to center around the personalities he has selected and his ASHI background. CMI was intentionally removed from under NACHI to open it up to all associations, and doing so will bring some measure of angst from those who would prefer to keep it as a NACHI designation. Other criticisms seem to center around concern that any change at all will be made to the status of current CMIs, who joined under far less stringent requirements and were promised free lifetime memberships. That is an issue that, I think, can only be decided between Michael and Nick (who has been notable by his absence on all of these threads). I think we have all known Nick to take an active and vocal role where he seeks to directly intervene - so his silence in this instance is telling. The current Board is advisory in nature, and was appointed by Nick and will likely reflect a heavy pro-NACHI bias. Michael apparantly desires to make the designation more challenging to obtain, consequently raising its percieved value. He is also seeking to make it a highly regarded program industry-wide, not just within NACHI. To that end, discussions with the Board may be less than productive if they are wed to Nick and NACHI only. Nick moved CMI out from under NACHI for an expressed purpose: to make the designation open to all inspectors. In that vein, we must take into consideration that members from other associations need to be brought into the mix, and likely they will (at some point) have bumped heads with Nick or NACHI. I think it is a worthy goal and although I have never met or spoken to Michael, I wish him success with this project and support the ideal of making CMI a more significant designation. |
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wforsyth is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Well spoken Joe M.
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Wendy and Joe M,
You are both clueless in this regard, but that is nothing new. The problem is not with Michael's choices, but with everything he has hatched, including the brochure he was just ordered to remove. |
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