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Old 8/24/06, 11:54 AM
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There was proposed legislation on the table. It was being pushed through a legislature. NACHI found provisions in it that was harmful to its membership and took action. What do you call that?

The other extreme was the Floridian drive to solicit NACHI support for its bill that NACHI withheld, due to the adverse affect that the bill would have on its membership.

NACHI used to have balls, when it came to these issues. What happened?
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Old 8/24/06, 11:55 AM
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There was proposed legislation on the table. It was being pushed through a legislature. NACHI found provisions in it that was harmful to its membership and took action. What do you call that?

The other extreme was the Floridian drive to solicit NACHI support for its bill that NACHI withheld, due to the adverse affect that the bill would have on its membership.

NACHI used to have balls, when it came to these issues. What happened?
lolllling. So now you believe that NACHI National should be involved. I can't keep up with you. Make up your mind.
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Old 8/24/06, 11:58 AM
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The bickering is not productive. Not that it's not fun... it's just not productive and will have absolutely no effect on this proposed legislation. It's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback.

Nick posted this to show that our NH Chapter supports self-written legislation, and apparently has a sponsor, or sponsors, of it.

It is a final draft, and I'm sure will be dissected and tweaked. In retrospect, I kind of wish our own law in NY had a requirement for licensees to be residents of the state, unless the state where he/she is a resident has a reciprocal agreement for licensure between it and NY. Fair is fair.

My understanding is the concern of an influx of Mass. inspectors, with NH inspectors left out of Mass, and some just left out of business entirely.

As to NACHI's exam hurthig anyone or being fluff, I'll remind all that it IS recognized for licensure in some states. Here in NY, it was also recognized, along with a few others, prior to NY imlementng its own licensing exam. Now ALL other exams are no longer recognized, whether proctored or not.

NH NACHI members appear to have a handle on this. Let's try and SUPPORT them when they ask for it.

Bickering on this thread by those who have no dog in this hunt makes absolutely no sense.

Questions/comments should probably be directed to the NH Chapter President and VP.

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Old 8/24/06, 12:02 PM
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The bickering is not productive. Noit that it's not fun... t's just not productive and will have absolutely no effect on this proposed legislation. It's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback.

Nick posted this to show that our NH Chapter supports self-written legislation, and apparently has a sponsor, or sponsors, of it.

It is a final draft, and I'm sure will be dissected and tweaked. In retrospect, I kind of wish our own law in NY had a requirement for licensees to be residents of the state, unless the state where he/she is a resident has a reciprocal agreement for licensure between it and NY. Fair is fair.

My understanding is the concern of an influx of Mass. inspectors, with NH inspectors left out of Mass, and some just left out of business entirely.

As to NACHI's exam hurthig anyone or being fluff, I'll remind all that it IS recognized for licensure in some states. Here in NY, it was also recognized, along with a few others, prior to NY imlementng its own licensing exam. Now ALL other exams are no longer recognized, whether proctored or not.

NH NACHI members appear to have a handle on this. Let's try and SUPPORT them when they ask for it.

Bickering on this thread by those who have no dog in this hunt makes absolutely no sense.

Questions/comments should probably be directed to the NH Chapter President and VP.
Which chapter are you referring too?
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Old 8/24/06, 12:06 PM
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lolllling. So now you believe that NACHI National should be involved. I can't keep up with you. Make up your mind.
Exactly how many of those brain cells did you actually kill in Florida, John?

The entire discussion has to do with NACHI's position on legislation...when to - and when not to - become involved. Recently, you have attended meetings with legislators that some members do not appreciate or support.

NACHI limited its involvement in the past to only those issues that (1) showed bias in favor of an association, (2) put its members out of business, or (3) created undue hardship on new inspectors wishing to enter the field.

If NACHI were to publish and stick to such a position, and stay away from local factions, it will support and not alienate any of its members, IMO.

The merits of this bill can be best explained, as Joe says, by those who drafted it and have something at stake. All other opinions aside, it is theirs that really count.
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Old 8/24/06, 12:28 PM
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In retrospect, I kind of wish our own law in NY had a requirement for licensees to be residents of the state, unless the state where he/she is a resident has a reciprocal agreement for licensure between it and NY. Fair is fair.

My understanding is the concern of an influx of Mass. inspectors, with NH inspectors left out of Mass, and some just left out of business entirely.
Interesting point. This will probably force New England ASHI into immediate opposition. More strength for those opposing any legislation at all, it would appear, since neither bill can garner anyone's overwhelming support. Maybe this bill was written to ensure passage of no bill at all. Hhhhhmmmm.
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Old 8/24/06, 12:44 PM
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Interesting point. This will probably force New England ASHI into immediate opposition. More strength for those opposing any legislation at all, it would appear, since neither bill can garner anyone's overwhelming support. Maybe this bill was written to ensure passage of no bill at all. Hhhhhmmmm.
No doubt. I agree. Perhaps the drafters of this will enlighten us as to its purpose.
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Old 8/24/06, 1:04 PM
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No doubt. I agree. Perhaps the drafters of this will enlighten us as to its purpose.
Honestly, if that was the original intent of its authors, they would be foolish to disclose it at this stage of the game.

If it works, though, it is certainly an ingenious plan.

This is going to be interesting to watch.
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Old 8/24/06, 1:33 PM
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John,

The thread is about New Hampshire legislation, no?
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Old 8/24/06, 1:37 PM
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John,

The thread is about New Hampshire legislation, no?
Sorry for the drift.
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Old 8/24/06, 2:44 PM
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Greg, NACHI has had a proctored exam used by Community Colleges to issue actual college credit for nearly 5 years now. Well over 1,000 inspectors have taken our proctored exams.




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Old 8/24/06, 3:15 PM
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John,

The thread is about New Hampshire legislation, no?
Yes it is Joe. How very astute of you to notice.
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Old 8/24/06, 3:17 PM
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Greg, NACHI has had a proctored exam used by Community Colleges to issue actual college credit for nearly 5 years now. Well over 1,000 inspectors have taken our proctored exams.
First I have ever heard of this. How many of those exams were for state licensing?
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The two things I've learned from today's posts in this thread.

John is retired.

Jim isn't working.

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Old 8/24/06, 4:04 PM
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The two things I've learned from today's posts in this thread.

John is retired.

Jim isn't working.

Six of one...half a dozen of the other.
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