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Old 7/14/08, 6:58 PM
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Default The Pickens Plan

http://www.pickensplan.com/

NACHI needs to get onboard with this guy some how.



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Old 7/14/08, 7:01 PM
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Default Re: The Pickens Plan

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http://www.pickensplan.com/

NACHI needs to get onboard with this guy some how.
Why?



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Old 7/14/08, 7:05 PM
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Default Re: The Pickens Plan

(from that site in bold)

In 1970, we imported 24% of our oil.
Today it's nearly 70% and growing.


One could assume that the key is to import less oil.
Sounds good to me - lets produce more here!
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Old 7/14/08, 7:07 PM
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(from that site in bold)

In 1970, we imported 24% of our oil.
Today it's nearly 70% and growing.


One could assume that the key is to import less oil.
Sounds good to me - lets produce more here!
But that is not Picken's Plan



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Default Re: The Pickens Plan

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But that is not Picken's Plan

Well, then Mr. Pickens is an idiot.

But, from what I gather he wants to build a big wind farm so we get our electricity form him, right?

How would that reduce our dependace on foreign OIL?
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Old 7/14/08, 7:14 PM
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Default Re: The Pickens Plan

Because , according to him, the Natural Gas being used to produce energy NOW , would be used for transportaion fuel instead. Reducing the amount of imported foreign oil needed by about 20%.



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Because , according to him, the Natural Gas being used to produce energy NOW , would be used for transportaion fuel instead. Reducing the amount of imported foreign oil needed by about 20%.
Oh...

Oil to Wind to Gas
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Old 7/14/08, 7:15 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure Pickens isn't an idiot. Shrewed business man yes, Idiot NO



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Old 7/14/08, 7:16 PM
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Why?
I just really feel this guy is ready to make a difference and can.

NACHI members could get in early with this guy and who knows we might get allot of publicity.

Lets face it Oil is dead Wind is alive so lets see where this guy can take us.



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Old 7/14/08, 7:19 PM
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Well, then Mr. Pickens is an idiot.

But, from what I gather he wants to build a big wind farm so we get our electricity form him, right?

How would that reduce our dependace on foreign OIL?
Something like that.

He's spending a lot of money with on radio and TV add blitzes.

Of course he just happens to own a very large windfarm and says it can all be done with private investment but then later admits government subsidies are needed. That's a big go figure, eh?

I agree with his idea of reducing foreign dependence but I've been hearing that for over 30 years.



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Old 7/14/08, 7:23 PM
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Lets face it Oil is dead Wind is alive so lets see where this guy can take us.
Oil is far far from dead. There are vast untapped oil reserves in the form of oil shale and oil sand on the North America continent.

He's bold and giving it the hard sell but much more has to be said about the particulars.

I'm of the opinion that if it requires government subsidies there is something seriously wrong with the plan.



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Lets face it Oil is dead Wind is alive so lets see where this guy can take us.
What happens if he builds the wind farm and gets alot of wind - I mean A LOT - like F4 quantities of wind?

Sorry Frank, I'm not bought in.
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Old 7/14/08, 7:30 PM
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What happens if he builds the wind farm and gets alot of wind - I mean A LOT - like F4 quantities of wind?

Sorry Frank, I'm not bought in.
Worse than that, what if the wind don't blow?

Remember last Summer in Texas?



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Old 7/14/08, 7:32 PM
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What happens if he builds the wind farm and gets alot of wind - I mean A LOT - like F4 quantities of wind?

Sorry Frank, I'm not bought in.
I know but lets just see for the next few weeks where this guy can really take us.

He sure makes me feel good for some reason.



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Old 7/14/08, 7:35 PM
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Default Re: The Pickens Plan

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Worse than that, what if the wind don't blow?

Remember last Summer in Texas?
If harnessing natural forces is going to be the rage, I'd prefer solar.

If the sun didn't shine, we'd have bigger problems than how to make the morning coffee.
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