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Old 5/15/09, 3:02 PM
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Default Re: Q: What causes billions of dollars in damage...?

kevin, don't forget the paper on Drywall.



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Brown rot use only the carbohydrate components of wood (cellulose and hemicellulose). I doubt it can feed off drywall.
Well, then.... Where are some good places to find wood destroying fungi - other than on visible "decayed wood" as you previously mentioned?



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Well, then.... Where are some good places to find wood destroying fungi - other than on visible "decayed wood" as you previously mentioned?
Why don't you just get to your point? This is exhausting.
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What causes billions of dollars in damage...?
Water damage a.k.a. moisture penetration.

This is not that difficult. Is it?



No moisture = no mold growth.



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kevin, don't forget the paper on Drywall.
Again, I doubt it could feed off drywall given what it thrives on. Could it? I'm sure there's a possibility. I'm waiting for Ben's point.
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Old 5/15/09, 3:16 PM
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Why don't you just get to your point? This is exhausting.
I apologize. I don't find this exhausting at all. I thought we were enjoying a pleasant conversation. Please feel free to end anytime you'd like. Maybe others will join in. Right now, I'm editing the Stucco Training Course for Residential and Commercial Property Inspectors - Coming in June on NACHI.TV.

My question.
Where are some good places to find wood destroying fungi - other than on visible "decayed wood" as Mr. Pierce previously mentioned?



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Old 5/15/09, 3:18 PM
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My question.
Where are some good places to find wood destroying fungi - other than on visible "decayed wood" as Mr. Pierce previously mentioned?
Where ever moisture may have entered the building envelope.



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I apologize. I don't find this exhausting at all. I thought we were enjoying a pleasant conversation. Please feel free to end anytime you'd like. Maybe others will join in. Right now, I'm editing the Stucco Training Course for Residential and Commercial Property Inspectors - Coming in June on NACHI.TV.

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Where are some good places to find wood destroying fungi - other than on visible "decayed wood" as Mr. Pierce previously mentioned?
Someone is trying to change the subject.
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Old 5/15/09, 3:25 PM
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Where ever moisture may have entered the building envelope.
Wherever there is moisture that has entered the building envelope - can mold be present under the right circumstances?



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Old 5/15/09, 3:31 PM
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An analogy.

If I spill gasoline on the floor and light a match, is it the match or the spilled gasoline that caused the damage?



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Old 5/15/09, 4:23 PM
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Yes.
Okay.... So, mold can be present. Wood destroying fungi can be present.
(Assuming there is) How does one tell the difference between the two visually?



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Okay.... So, mold can be present. Wood destroying fungi can be present.
(Assuming there is) How does one tell the difference between the two visually?
Careful with your shovel Ben, your getting dangerously close to magma. I'm not a walking, talking bio-lab. If I were to see an apparent bio-substance with no visible sign of wood decay, I would simply recommend further evaluation, blah, blah, blah.

I would think that a good inspector like yourself would do the same. If you can detect different species of fungi by simply looking at them, let us all in on the secret please.
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An analogy.

If I spill gasoline on the floor and light a match, is it the match or the spilled gasoline that caused the damage?
Actually neither it is the ignited Vapor lol
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Old 5/15/09, 4:44 PM
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Careful with your shovel Ben, your getting dangerously close to magma. I'm not a walking, talking bio-lab. If I were to see an apparent bio-substance with no visible sign of wood decay, I would simply recommend further evaluation, blah, blah, blah.

I would think that a good inspector like yourself would do the same. If you can detect different species of fungi by simply looking at them, let us all in on the secret please.
So one can or can not tell the difference between mold and wood destroying fungi during a visual inspection? Can or can not?



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