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Old 8/23/09, 7:48 PM
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Old 8/23/09, 7:50 PM
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Old 8/23/09, 10:20 PM
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Old 8/23/09, 10:28 PM
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We the people need to start standing up to those who would hold us in bondage.
I salute the men and women who have graciously and caringly given there all for our freedoms.



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Old 8/23/09, 11:29 PM
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His service is to be admired.

His ability to make any comment with a semantic content higher then a bumper sticker is not.

Of course I have no doubt you will use the usual tactic to say if I disagree with his opinions I must therefore be unappreciative of the blank check he wrote his country.

No one is tampering with his health care. The tales he hears about that come from the fertile minds of you righties. Spreading the fear so well as to drive out rational thought.

You extol these positions but offer no answer to the reality.

1. increasing costs of health insurance twice the rate of inflation
2. 45 million plus with no insurance at all
3. People who lose their health care when they get sick.
4. People who can not buy insurance at any price due to pre-existing conditions.
5. Inability of people to access the treatments they need due to rationing by the insurance companies, not the government.
6. A country that spends 16% of our GDP on health care and ranks 36th in the world on outcomes

But do you folks engage in rational conversation as you have been repeatedly invited to do? No, instead you righties spew lies and fear under the cover of exercising your constitutional rights. Conduct what you call discourse by issuing threats to anyone who dares to disagree and try to yell them down.

I'd really wish you would not start these threads in public. But as long as you do I feel free to rebut.



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Old 8/23/09, 11:40 PM
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Don,

Are you the same guy that claimed 30% on insurance premiums went to the insurer?

I have an idea.

How about Congress and the president prove they can fix Veterans care and Medicare before tackling the whole enchilada?



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Old 8/24/09, 9:57 AM
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His service is to be admired. His ability to make any comment with a semantic content higher then a bumper sticker is not.
I admire this fellow Marine's ability to stand up for what he believes in public, in front of a crowd.

Did you intend to insult just one Marine with your comment, or all of us?



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Old 8/24/09, 2:25 PM
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His service is to be admired.

His ability to make any comment with a semantic content higher then a bumper sticker is not.

Of course I have no doubt you will use the usual tactic to say if I disagree with his opinions I must therefore be unappreciative of the blank check he wrote his country.

No one is tampering with his health care. The tales he hears about that come from the fertile minds of you righties. Spreading the fear so well as to drive out rational thought.

You extol these positions but offer no answer to the reality.

1. increasing costs of health insurance twice the rate of inflation
Read the vaious bills...they lay it out fairly well.
2. 45 million plus with no insurance at all
I don't subscribe to that fugure in any way. The liberal Congress (and Obama) are presenting this figure...not the so-called "righties".
3. People who lose their health care when they get sick.
I haven't heard that one...but according to the bills presented changing jobs, or dropping one's current insurance for any reason will result in enrollment in the National Policy.
4. People who can not buy insurance at any price due to pre-existing conditions.
Not as serious a concern as made out to be by the proponents of single-payer.
5. Inability of people to access the treatments they need due to rationing by the insurance companies, not the government.
Again, read the bills--all three of them...it says it will be the domain of Congress to make that decision. It's all right in the bills..
6. A country that spends 16% of our GDP on health care and ranks 36th in the world on outcomes
So where would you go to get better care and a better paymnent system?
But do you folks engage in rational conversation as you have been repeatedly invited to do?
Yes, frequently.
No, instead you righties spew lies (describe one such lie and offer proof.) and fear under the cover of exercising your constitutional rights. Conduct what you call discourse by issuing threats to anyone who dares to disagree and try to yell them down.
Most of the threats and intimidation has been from the leftwing hired thugs.

I'd really wish you would not start these threads in public. But as long as you do I feel free to rebut.
Me, too.



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Old 8/24/09, 2:39 PM
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FWIW, I read the entire first draft, all 1100 pages. You'd think a guy would have something better to do with his time...until I realized that being informed was something better.

Then I read the other bills and compared the ear-marked pages with the first bill--not a lot of differences.

Then, in case I hadn't had enough of it all, I sat in on a point-by-point discussion of all three bills presented at the time.

I'm not particularly impressed with people who spend all their free time in front of the TV watching MSNBC--and then proclaim to the world their astuteness in the Govermnent and its "on-rush" to oblivion.

("On-rush"--I think I made a new word...)



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Old 8/24/09, 3:10 PM
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Any beach, any place, any time. Semper fi!!

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Old 8/24/09, 4:14 PM
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I have an idea.

How about Congress and the president prove they can fix Veterans care and Medicare before tackling the whole enchilada?
Like everything else Veteran care drastically declined under Bush's watch. Far from an idea, it is doubtful that you even have a clue.



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Old 8/24/09, 6:51 PM
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Like everything else Veteran care drastically declined under Bush's watch. Far from an idea, it is doubtful that you even have a clue.
So says you joey.

Even it's that's true the Vet care declined under Bush, lets have Obama fix it and prove he knows what he is doing.

A simple concept. Don't you agree?



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Old 8/24/09, 7:12 PM
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Old 8/24/09, 7:18 PM
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it's the 435 members of the United States Congress


This has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans, it has to do with Lying, theiving, drunk drugy, politicians, many of who are attorneys.


and they are going to give all of us FREE health care????



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Old 8/24/09, 7:22 PM
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it's the 435 members of the United States Congress


This has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans, it has to do with Lying, theiving, drunk drugy, politicians, many of who are attorneys.


and they are going to give all of us FREE health care????
That or one similar to it has been going around for years.

Sorry but that's the facts Jack.



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