Should InterNACHI take over ESA (Environmental Solutions Association)?

[Nick Gromicko]

Does anyone belong to ESA?

[Russell J. Hensel]

I do and it is a poorly run outfit. The are competing with ACAC and doing a poor job of it. Would I renew? Who knows, but I can say that all they want is your $$$$ and once they get it you never hear from them until dues are do again. I did it for a designation of Master Indoor Environemental Specialist...which includes testing about Radon, Mold, and VOC's. No one else in the area had it, so I jumped on the wagon and got it...

[Nick Gromicko]

http://www.nachi.org/documents/inter...ss-release.pdf

[Dominic J. Maricic]

Aren't they the ones that bought InspectVue from Keith?

[Russell J. Hensel]

Nick, that is like a BS marketing ploy. They do not take care of their people and once they get your fee, you never hear from them until they want more money for different classes. Could they become huge? Sure, but it will take a ton of organization and even some "caring".They do not realize its a rather small industry where reputation is EVERYthing.

[Nick Gromicko]

Thanks to our staffers, I can honestly argue that InterNACHI is one the world's best run trade associations. I think we ESA would really benefit from our management.

[Aubrey J. Kahn]

As a member of ESA I can honestly say that they do not give value for money.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

Originally Posted by dmaricic

Aren't they the ones that bought InspectVue from Keith?

That was ESP

[Russell J. Hensel]

Would ESA benefit from Inachi Management? I think Inachi has awesome people and ANYTHING would benefit them. As said early their is no real benefit for the money. Its not their organization. I think they have all the tools, just no one to organize, oversee and run them.

It super easy to train for...just follow the ISO's....look at IS500 and IS520 and there is another ISO that tells you how to take samples. Don't re-invent the wheel just teach it with consistency.

[Michael Bazzo, CMI]

As a past member of ESA, I can tell you that it was a complete waste of money. There courses are less than educational, return calls to get access codes for tests take forever, and there marketing materials are just plain bad. Given the educators, staff and dedication to the industry, Nachi should take over ESA. It"s a win win for the membership.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Was a member did not renew

[rsmith24]

Originally Posted by rhensel

I do and it is a poorly run outfit. The are competing with ACAC and doing a poor job of it. Would I renew? Who knows, but I can say that all they want is your $$$$ and once they get it you never hear from them until dues are do again. I did it for a designation of Master Indoor Environemental Specialist...which includes testing about Radon, Mold, and VOC's. No one else in the area had it, so I jumped on the wagon and got it...

Its Environmental. If you cant spell it you cant be it.

[Joe Farsetta]

Isn't ESA the org that Bernie used to train for?

Or are they the outfit that also handles HIF?

[Nick Gromicko]

The one Bernie trains for.

[Dennis R. Goudreau]

they could definitively use better management