Stop Flushing

[John McKenna]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24670784-2,00.html

[whandley]

Check these out!

http://epa.gov/OWM/mtb/incinera.pdf

http://www.inspect-ny.com/septic/altincinerate.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incinerating_toilet

[klott]

Oh great, now they are talking about Toilet Tax! What a $h!tty idea! I ain't payin no stinkin toilet tax! I'll just get me another dog.

[klott]

Originally Posted by whandley

Check these out!

http://epa.gov/OWM/mtb/incinera.pdf

http://www.inspect-ny.com/septic/altincinerate.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incinerating_toilet

Will, do those incinerate the $h!te or the $h!ter? Seriously, how will it tell the difference, with politicians and journalist?

[Michael Larson]

Soon we may stop being inundated with this type silliness.

As the real possibility of a serious depression approaches as our leadership(current and future) continue to make all the wrong moves we will have more important things to think about than the "green" agenda.

That might make dark cloud ahead of us have at least some semblance of a silver lining.

[klott]

Our furture leader revealed the other part of his Millions of Energy jobs in a specch. He said in the next Decade!

[whandley]

Originally Posted by klott

Our furture leader revealed the other part of his Millions of Energy jobs in a specch. He said in the next Decade!

I think he meant 2010 as the next decade. The info I've seen suggests Obama will have a two year plan to put approximately 2.5 million people to work building roads, bridges, wind farms and solar fields.

He's the president, we've got to get on board with this crap or we're going to experience pain and financial disaster the likes of which most of us have never seen.

I certainly hope it all works out!

[Barry Adair]

Beetles

By Peter Janssen Jul 10, 2006, 12:34 GMT

Bangkok - Ancient Egyptians revered the dung beetle, believing a divine scarab rotated the world like a giant dung ball, but in rural Thailand, the insect has traditionally been valued for its more mundane uses, primarily as a culinary delicacy.

Thai farmers in the past were known to stake claims to buffalo droppings as their private property to protect the valuable beetles burrowing away inside, making dung balls and, ultimately, baby dung beetles.

[B][SIZE="3"]Dung beetles are best eaten as pupae, their inactive state when they have stopped being larvae munching on the inside of their dung balls, or as adults, after they have been purged in water for a few hours.

With the advent of mass tourism in Thailand, dead dung beetles have become a popular souvenir item, sold to foreigners on the streets of Bangkok and other major cities for as much as 400 baht (nearly 10 dollars).

Unfortunately, this excellent source of protein (100 grams of dung beetle has 17.2 grams of protein) and extra income for Thai farmers is swiftly disappearing, according to Leela Kayikananta, a senior scientist and expert on 'commercial insects' at Thailand's Forestry Department.

For the past three years, Leela, who studied termites at the Holzbiologie Institute in Hamburg and bees at the Forest Entomologie Institute in Vienna, has been devoting her time to understanding the life cycle of the Heliocopris bucephalus Fabricius, Thailand's biggest dung beetle.

'There are 237 dung-beetle species in Thailand, but this one is the biggest and most beautiful and most popular as a souvenir,' Leela said. The 'kudjee yak,' or giant beetle, can grow up to 57 millimetres and has a life cycle of nearly 20 months.

Although no scientific studies have been conducted on the declining numbers of the giant dung beetle, rural communities said they are getting harder to find in the wild.

To reverse the trend, or at least stop farmers from hunting the giant dung beetle to extinction in the wild, Leela has studied the insect's breeding and reproduction cycle and written an instruction manual on how to successfully raise dung beetles in captivity as a sideline for farmers or rural entrepreneurs.

'Actually, they are very easy to raise,' she said, 'Anyone who owns a buffalo can easily raise dung beetles.'

Owners of cows and elephants can also profit from Leela's dung-beetle-farming techniques. All that's necessary is an enclosed pen, mosquito screens to keep the beetles inside and plenty of fresh dung.

'During the first three months, you need to put fresh dung into the pen every five days, but after that, once a week suffices,' the manual advises. Leela said she is fielding 60 telephone calls a day from eager dung-beetle farmers since publishing her brochure.

Animal-protection groups in Thailand are supportive of dung-beetle farming and other insect-raising efforts as a means of protecting bugs in the wild while satisfying local tastebuds.

'Cricket raising has become a real big cottage industry in Thailand,' said William Schaedla, an entomologist who works at WildAid, a wildlife-protection group devoted to cracking down on illegal traffic in protected species.

Fried crickets, like dung beetles, are deemed a delicacy in rural communities, as are bamboo caterpillars, red ants and a host of other insects.

Schaedla noted that for dung beetles, there is also a growing Internet market in the souvenir and pet trade. Dead dung beetles from Thailand sell for about 25 dollars on eBay, and there is a huge market for pet beetles in Japan.

The trade in insects is remarkably unregulated as long as they aren't classified as pests.

There are 13 Thai insect species protected under Convention of International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), and nearly all of these are butterflies or moths.

'There is almost zero protection for invertebrates under CITES,' noted Schaedla, who sees loss of habitat and the widespread use of pesticides as a much bigger threat to Thailand's insect population than exotic culinary tastes and the souvenir market.

'The real nuclear bomb for insects like the dung beetle in Thailand is pesticides,' said Schaedla, who is writing a soon-to-be published book on 'The Edible Insects of Mainland Southeast Asia.'

As to his own culinary preferences for insects, Schaedla admitted, 'They don't taste bad if they're prepared well, but I draw the line on dung beetles, or anything else that lives in ****.'