Stop what you're doing right now..

[Kevin M. Leonard]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Well I agree she is rewriting history from a very narrow and liberal perspective.

Just curious Mike. In your opinion, what part did she re-write?

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by kleonard

Just curious Mike. In your opinion, what part did she re-write?

Listen, she thinks government exists to come along side and "help". I think government serves us better when it stays out of the way.

Letrs' see how you react to this gentleman's opinion.

9-11 And Katrina: Disastrous Experiments In Liberalism
By Christopher G. Adamo
August 25, 2006

in conclusion he writes:

Despite all of their phony tears, "commiserating" political hacks on the left never intended to fix or address those problems either before or after thousands of Americans lost their lives. Rather, they remain determined to empower themselves, ultimately at the expense of those whose interests they are sworn to serve. And if they regain their majorities in Congress this November, the nation can only expect more of the same.

[Kevin M. Leonard]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Listen, she thinks government exists to come along side and "help". I think government serves us better when it stays out of the way.

Letrs' see how you react to this gentleman's opinion.

9-11 And Katrina: Disastrous Experiments In Liberalism
By Christopher G. Adamo
August 25, 2006

in conclusion he writes:

Despite all of their phony tears, "commiserating" political hacks on the left never intended to fix or address those problems either before or after thousands of Americans lost their lives. Rather, they remain determined to empower themselves, ultimately at the expense of those whose interests they are sworn to serve. And if they regain their majorities in Congress this November, the nation can only expect more of the same.

Michael,

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The United States has three braches of government.
Judicial, Legislative & Executive

The GOP controlled all three branches of government from January 2001 to January 2006

The terrorist attacks were on September 11th 2001
Hurricane Katrina made landfall August 29th 2005

HMMM.
But it was the Left wing Liberal Hacks fault that things were handled like they were.

Yea, it all makes sense to me now. Thanks for clearing it all up Michael.

Now if you'll excuse me I am going to build my bomb shelter now cause I'm scared.

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by kleonard

The failure of conservatism

Our nation has seen three periods in which conservatism reigned: The Gilded Age (1870s-1900), the Roaring Twenties (1920-1929), and the Reagan Revolution (1980-2008. The last period includes Bill Clinton's presidency because the Republican Revolution of 1994 ensured the end of the "Era of Big Government."

WTF is this lady smoking? The "Republican Revolution" created nothing more than resistance to Clinton's liberal scams and failed miserably to stop most of them. The GOP Washington DC of 2000 - '06 was anything but conservative, for all they were concerned about was paying back the interests that financed their rise to the top. Conservatism hasn't reigned in DC for the longest time. "Facts" my A$HI.

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by kleonard

Michael,

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The United States has three braches of government.
Judicial, Legislative & Executive

The GOP controlled all three branches of government from January 2001 to January 2006

The terrorist attacks were on September 11th 2001
Hurricane Katrina made landfall August 29th 2005

HMMM.
But it was the Left wing Liberal Hacks fault that things were handled like they were.

Yea, it all makes sense to me now. Thanks for clearing it all up Michael.

Now if you'll excuse me I am going to build my bomb shelter now cause I'm scared.

Ummmm, the only thing he was doing was discrediting the source of your "facts". He was challenging the validity of the revisionist history you provided. And sorry you seem to think that the liberals aren't in business for themselves.

[Kevin M. Leonard]

Originally Posted by nwagner

Ummmm, the only thing he was doing was discrediting the source of your "facts". He was challenging the validity of the revisionist history you provided. And sorry you seem to think that the liberals aren't in business for themselves.

Obviously you did't read the opinion article that michael linked to. It has nothing to do with challenging the validity of anything. It has everything to do with pointing fingers & trying to use scare tactics.

Got your bomb shelter built yet?

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by kleonard

A BIT OF HISTORY FOR ALL YOU NAY SAYERS OUT THERE. PLEASE READ THE TRUTH - HISTORY DOESN'T LIE

The failure of conservatism

By Jocelyn Bucaro
Friday, March 27, 2009 B
Conservatives across the country portray President Obama as a socialist, condemning any progressive reforms he might propose — despite the fact that a majority of Americans voted last November for the very change he is proposing. Using attacks, rather than new proposals, these conservatives reveal the fundamental flaws in conservative ideology as borne out through history.
Our nation has seen three periods in which conservatism reigned: The Gilded Age (1870s-1900), the Roaring Twenties (1920-1929), and the Reagan Revolution (1980-2008. The last period includes Bill Clinton's presidency because the Republican Revolution of 1994 ensured the end of the "Era of Big Government."
During these periods, government was described as the enemy of economic growth and prosperity, and business interests were considered the people's interests. Deregulation ensured a free-market hand over the economy, and businesses, banks and investors were liberated from government oversight so they could use their money to make money for the economy which, in turn, prospered. Conservative tax policies in the 1920s, 1980s and 2000s gave the wealthiest Americans massive tax cuts in order to encourage investment that would "trickle down" to lift the overall economy.
Perhaps you believe these were all very good policies for America. But if one looks more closely at the prosperity that marked these periods, and at the periods that immediately followed, some important blemishes on the conservative ideology arise: Each period was marked by a concentration of wealth into the hands of very few. Income inequality was rampant, and the middle and working classes saw wages stagnate and even fall. (The only exception to this is the mid- to late-1990s, when Clinton's anti-conservative tax policy was in place.) Minority groups were largely marginalized and seen as the enemy of white, working-class Americans. Consumer debt increased, and more Americans began to see the ideal of the American dream slip beyond their grasp.
These periods also all ended with public cries for reform. The Gilded Age gave way to the Progressive Era, which established many reforms that remain intact today, including workman's compensation, eight-hour workdays, and consumer protections like the FDA. The Roaring Twenties gave way to the Great Depression and New Deal, which established Social Security and the FDIC, as well as a new, anti-conservative notion that a national social safety net was necessary to assist the public during times of economic distress. The Reagan Revolution ended with the election of Barack Obama, who ran on a progressive change platform, promising health care reform, energy independence and more equal access to education.
What lessons can we draw from history? Conservatism has been tested and retested, each time with the same result. While the wealthy and big business prosper, the rest of society does not. Inevitably, this leads to sharp economic downturns because economic growth that does not extend to the middle class and poor is unsustainable. Greed, if left to its own devices, yields corruption and disaster (see subprime housing crisis). Money made from money, rather than from work, proves to be an illusion, and pure competition with no cooperation leaves too many people behind.
Progressive reforms are not the enemy to economic prosperity. The goal of progressive reforms is to extend economic growth to all sectors of society and to protect those who fall on hard times. The legacy of progressivism is a litany of public attempts to do this: Progressive income tax, minimum wage, Social Security, and Medicare, to name a few. This ideal is at the heart of our founding principles and is necessary not only to sustaining economic prosperity but also to preserving democracy.
The lessons of the past demonstrate that public (government) oversight is necessary to protect against the excesses of greed, and public intervention is necessary to ensure that opportunity and prosperity extends to all.
As a society, we need to work together to ensure that everyone has the ability to succeed and to secure their own future.

Excellent piece Kevin.
Too bad there are many here whom will never understand the truth.

[Kevin M. Leonard]

It is too bad, Some people also get their feelings hurt really easy too.
I guess there's truth to - The truth hurts.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by kleonard

Michael,

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The United States has three braches of government.
Judicial, Legislative & Executive

The GOP controlled all three branches of government from January 2001 to January 2006


Really? I din;t know the justices where party affiliated

The terrorist attacks were on September 11th 2001

Perhaps you have forgotten the Clinton what offered Osama's head on a platter during his administration.

Hurricane Katrina made landfall August 29th 2005

U hum. The problem is the decades of liberal rule in Louisiana and New Orleans and the welfare state mentality of that city.

HMMM.
But it was the Left wing Liberal Hacks fault that things were handled like they were.

I guess you have forgotten the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans actions of that time.

Yea, it all makes sense to me now. Thanks for clearing it all up Michael.

Glad I could help with your education.

Now if you'll excuse me I am going to build my bomb shelter now cause I'm scared.

Personally I'd stock up on ammo first while you can still get it.

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by kleonard

It is too bad, Some people also get their feelings hurt really easy too.
I guess there's truth to - The truth hurts.

What are these "truths" that you are referring to? So far, all I'm hearing from you is the same old liberal white noise about how everything is the GOP's fault. There are A LOT of things the DemocRATS did and didn't do that got us into this mess, too. You're slamming one side while giving the other a free pass, instead of enlightening us with "facts" and "truths".