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Not silly at all. The burden of proof is on you.

A little reading for you.

Evolution Theory Lacks True Transitional Forms

Are there transitional forms: creature to creature?

We could play website swap all night but I'm more interested in what you believe and why.
Yet no burden for you to prove huh? I believe in theories supported by evidence.
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Yet no burden for you to prove huh? I believe in theories supported by evidence.
Any theory must ultimately stand up to the evidence or the theory is incorrect.



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Old 10/21/08, 9:51 PM
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Obama never said anything about Socialism. Yet the truth for YOU is that he wants a socialist goverment. He never SAID that. But you say his INTENDED actions will LEAD to that. This is what you call TRUTH? How can something be TRUE that have never come to fruition?
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Who ever said drilling American oil will make oil cheaper?
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Obama never said anything about Socialism. Yet the truth for YOU is that he wants a socialist goverment. He never SAID that. But you say his INTENDED actions will LEAD to that. This is what you call TRUTH? How can something be TRUE that have never come to fruition?
Of course not.

Listen, you either believe taking wealth from those who have to give to those who don't is Socialism or you don't.

IMHO you can't find enough lipstick to put on that pig to make it pretty.



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We produce cars and Steel and yet its cheaper to get it from abroad.
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Who ever said drilling American oil will make oil cheaper?
I did for one.

It's all about supply and demand.



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Taking money from those that have and giving it to those that dont. WE ARE DOING THAT ALREADY and have been for YEARS AND YEARS. So you believe in the trickle down effect? Silly silly man. When I think of trickle down I think of getting pissed on! So those CEO's who made hundreds of millions helped you out? I see them now lining up to help with your mortgage payment, right? If I MAKE...........MAKE not GROSS, MAKE $250K a year, I would not mind paying a little more to help those in need. My parents are retired and get medicare and they do ok and are healthy and happy. Would I mind bucking up a bit more to help out? Nope. But I guess you would, Huh? Do I Mind helping out a person opn welfare sho sits at home and does nothing? Sure, but there will ALWAYS be people who buck the system. But that same system helps those who CANNOT help themselves.

Wait and line and get trickled on. I am going to make mine with PRESIDENT OBAMA. I love it when repubs get you guys to fight the fight for them. Some will be leaders and some will need to be led.
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O so YOU KNOW OIL will be cheaper if drilled in America? Once again. This is your TRUTH huh?
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Why is steel not cheaper?
Why are cars not cheaper?

We produce them right here in the USA. They MUST be cheaper? Supply and demand is your answer? Thats why we don't produce any steel and our car industry is in the toilet?

Then why does Toyota Turn a profit each year with growth in the market?
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O so YOU KNOW OIL will be cheaper if drilled in America? Once again. This is your TRUTH huh?
You insist on using a secondary definition of truth.

But yes the law of supply and demand says that as supplies increase, prices decrease all other things being equal.



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Old 10/21/08, 10:11 PM
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Do we not have a need for the supply of steel from steel mills in PA? That have closed down due to the cheap production fo steel from China. We IMPORT steel, just we have a supply of it in the USA. It has NOTHING to do with supply and demand. It has to do with COST.
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Any theory must ultimately stand up to the evidence or the theory is incorrect.
That's exactly it! The theories I believe in may be incorrect. I'm willing to admit that. Are you willing to admit the Bible may be incorrect?
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Taking money from those that have and giving it to those that dont. WE ARE DOING THAT ALREADY and have been for YEARS AND YEARS. So you believe in the trickle down effect? Silly silly man. When I think of trickle down I think of getting pissed on! So those CEO's who made hundreds of millions helped you out? I see them now lining up to help with your mortgage payment, right? If I MAKE...........MAKE not GROSS, MAKE $250K a year, I would not mind paying a little more to help those in need. My parents are retired and get medicare and they do ok and are healthy and happy. Would I mind bucking up a bit more to help out? Nope. But I guess you would, Huh? Do I Mind helping out a person opn welfare sho sits at home and does nothing? Sure, but there will ALWAYS be people who buck the system. But that same system helps those who CANNOT help themselves.

Wait and line and get trickled on. I am going to make mine with PRESIDENT OBAMA. I love it when repubs get you guys to fight the fight for them. Some will be leaders and some will need to be led.
I was hoping as two intelligent adults we could avoid name calling.

I have no problem with helping those in need.

Who are you fighting for BTW?

I never have understood those who think it's just fine to remove money (by the force of a gun) from those who have earned it to give to those who don't just because they want it.

You can try to educate me but it will be tough.



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