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Old 10/25/08, 10:13 PM
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OK I'll add another... The fundamentalist traditions of any religion stifle free thought and the free flow of life. The so-called faith is nihilistic to the point where the practitioner is required to put off some aspect of life today for the promise of something in the future, like a mansion in heaven or eternity with 70-virgins. The religion all fundamentalist practice is the the religion of death, because only after death can the promise be delivered, what a terrible waste of life & creativity some religions can be.
I was going to get to more but thanks for the input Joe. This could get fun!
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You specifically asked what I was referring to when I said that there are truths in the video. The quotes that I wrote are truths. I happen to agree with what he has said. Pretty simple right?
Seems to me that you are accepting Dawkins "truths" by faith.

What leads you to put so much faith in what Dawkins says?



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Seems to me that you are accepting Dawkins "truths" by faith.

What leads you to put so much faith in what Dawkins says?
Nope, no faith involved on this one. These statements are backed up by pure reality and evidence.
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I'm running out to take my daughter to a Halloween party. I'll be back.....
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Seems to me that you are accepting Dawkins "truths" by faith.

What leads you to put so much faith in what Dawkins says?
Bull**** and you know it, what aspect of faith is involved here... The faith that there is no god when no proof of god exists, piss off!



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Kevin is displaying faith in the statements of a man he doesn't know and in an area of expertise he has not demonstrated any competency IMHO

Dawkins is no philosopher he just plays one on the college circuit.

He is a biologist.



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Dueling friggin' websites...


God is Imaginary

Now who are you gonna believe?



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Kevin is displaying faith in the statements of a man he doesn't know and in an area of expertise he has not demonstrated any competency IMHO

Dawkins is no philosopher he just plays one on the college circuit.

He is a biologist.
Isn't that at 2 way street Mike?

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Isn't that at 2 way street Mike?

Gerry
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Nope
Thanks for the well developed rational answer

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Kevin is displaying faith in the statements of a man he doesn't know and in an area of expertise he has not demonstrated any competency IMHO

Dawkins is no philosopher he just plays one on the college circuit.

He is a biologist.
Mikey, don't worry god still loves you, really she told me so herself last night.



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Thanks for the well developed rational answer

Gerry
Ask a more specific question and I will answer.

Vague insinuation of something will get no a nope.



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Kevin is displaying faith in the statements of a man he doesn't know and in an area of expertise he has not demonstrated any competency IMHO

Dawkins is no philosopher he just plays one on the college circuit.

He is a biologist.
Those statements could be made by your mom and I, and anyone else, would agree that they are true. It doesn't matter who is saying them. I'll ask again, are the quotes that I posted from Mr. Dawkins false? If so, which ones and why.

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Was that a joke Peter? I'm not asking sarcastically. Do you believe that site proves God exists? I won't tell you that God doesn't exist, I was just curious if people actually believe that those series of thoughts actually prove the existence of God.
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