I thought it was "thou shalt not steal"

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Mikey, show me what ya got.

John 14:6 (English Standard Version)

6Jesus said to him, "I am(A) the way, and(B) the truth, and(C) the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

That's reality.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Snopes entry

Interesting that it may be true.
One of the men mentioned he was a deep sea diver(real) and wanted to go in to the subject in depth. (pun intended)

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by mlarson

John 14:6 (English Standard Version)

6Jesus said to him, "I am(A) the way, and(B) the truth, and(C) the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

That's reality.

That may be reality for you but it is highly subjective and open to debate, give me the real deal. What is truth?

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

That may be reality for you but it is highly subjective and open to debate, give me the real deal. What is truth?

How could Jesus be anymore clear than that?


He is the only option joey.

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by relliott

Interesting that it may be true.
One of the men mentioned he was a deep sea diver(real) and wanted to go in to the subject in depth. (pun intended)

So let's say they find chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea. What exactly are you saying that proves?

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by kpierce

I've already stated that if I must be an atheist/agnostic because of the textbook definition I'm fine with it. I just feel that the accepted definition of atheist doesn't leave open the possibility of the existence of god, and I do.

Michael, this brings the question what's the difference between and atheist and agnostic?

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by kpierce

So let's say they find chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea. What exactly are you saying that proves?

Kevin ,your thoughts deny your sight and your poor vision is your reality.
No one here will ever convince you, if you are blinded that blue and red are different colors.
There is a reason that science can never prove a miracle and will always deny them.
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/WhyNoMiracles.HTM

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by relliott

Kevin ,your thoughts deny your sight and your poor vision is your reality.
No one here will ever convince you, if you are blinded that blue and red are different colors.
There is a reason that science can never prove a miracle and will always deny them.
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/WhyNoMiracles.HTM

It's a simple question with a simple answer. Finding chariots under the sea does nothing to prove miracles. I just didn't get why you, or the guy you were talking to, would think so.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by mlarson

How could Jesus be anymore clear than that?


He is the only option joey.

Big Whoop!

It ain't even in my bag-o-tricks of options, furthermore it's not a reality or truth that is connected or controlled by you it is merely something you read somewhere and now you parrot like you wrote it. Mikey, why not get a life of your own before you are just dust again?

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Big Whoop!

It ain't even in my bag-o-tricks of options, furthermore it's not a reality or truth that is connected or controlled by you it is merely something you read somewhere and now you parrot like you wrote it. Mikey, why not get a life of your own before you are just dust again?

Joey, Jesus made an exclusive claim.

He's the only game in town.

The decision is your's to accept it or not.

You have free will so chose carefully.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Joey, Jesus made an exclusive claim.

He's the only game in town.

The decision is your's to accept it or not.

You have free will so chose carefully.

Choose, choose what, I don't see no Jesus? I choose to keep my options open and live in the moment, how about dat!

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Choose, choose what, I don't see no Jesus? I choose to keep my options open and live in the moment, how about dat!

Joshua 24:14-16 (New International Version)


14 "Now fear the LORD and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your forefathers worshiped beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the LORD. 15 But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."
16 Then the people answered, "Far be it from us to forsake the LORD to serve other gods!

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Joshua 24:14-16 (New International Version)


14 "Now fear the LORD and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your forefathers worshiped beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the LORD. 15 But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."
16 Then the people answered, "Far be it from us to forsake the LORD to serve other gods!

More stuff you interpreted as important from your book of Jewish Fairy tales, when will you learn that circular logic is not truth or reality?

You might want to try living for the day in the here & now at this present moment, for when you pull down all the facades erected by religion all you have is the fleeting moment.

Here is a passage from another 2000 year old book Omar Khayyam's Rubaiyat. Enjoy

Ah, make the most of what we may yet spend,
Before we too into the Dust descend;
Dust into Dust, and under Dust, to lie;
Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer, and -- sans End!

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Here is a passage from another 2000 year old book Omar Khayyam's Rubaiyat. Enjoy

Ah, make the most of what we may yet spend,
Before we too into the Dust descend;
Dust into Dust, and under Dust, to lie;
Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer, and -- sans End!

Yep, a very similar sentiment is expressed by Paul when he quotes a 2700 year old verse from Isaiah in vs. 32 or I Corinthian 15.

29Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? 30And as for us, why do we endanger ourselves every hour? 31I die every day—I mean that, brothers—just as surely as I glory over you in Christ Jesus our Lord. 32If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus for merely human reasons, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised,
"Let us eat and drink,
for tomorrow we die."[d] 33Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character." 34Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God—I say this to your shame.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by mlarson

John 14:6 (English Standard Version)

6Jesus said to him, "I am(A) the way, and(B) the truth, and(C) the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

That's reality.

Couldn't resist.

A couple of chapers earlier, Jesus said "no one comes to me, but that the Father sends him".

Take that, all you pre-destinationists.