Warning, imposter attacks NACHI Inspectors! (Previously Fun and Games in NH)

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

The hard reality is that the time has passed for the notion of "no legislation" in New Hampshire. Those from that very state who have reached this plateau of reason should have done so LAST YEAR, when others were pushing far worse legislation, and these same individuals believed everything was hunky dory.

This is true.

Those of us who are truly against a state controlled home inspection industry have been on the record for quite some time. The disingenuous stance taken by ASHI (and other supporters of the Gale Bill) to oppose the "NACHI Bill" under the guise of opposing any legislation is quite offensive and fools no one.

The "NACHI Bill" is a response to an ongoing effort by ASHI - in New Hampshire and Massachusetts - to control the industry in that neck of the woods. As Joe F. has pointed out, the idea of socializing the inspection industry in New Hampshire came from ASHI. Frank Carrio, at his own expense, has taken on that challenge and with the help of his chapter created an alternative measure that should protect these folks from the original ASHI agenda.

As his bill continues to pick up sponsors in his legislature, ASHI's screams and lamentations grow in pitch and intensity....which is music to the ears.

Godspeed, Frank. Make it happen.

[Joe Farsetta]

Paul,

Who are you addressing, and in what context?

[Paul W. Abernathy]

joe F....I was asking who is this person in your orignal post......the person from ASHI on the boards....I am confused.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

It is led by an ASHI die-hard, who had joined thos org, for nothing other than to read our members-only section, gather e-mailing lists, and watch from the shadows.

Here's the kicker, though... He created the e-mail address nachinh@comcast.net. The legitimate e-mail address of NACHI New Hampshire is NACHI-NH@comcast.net. Think there are any intentional deceptive practices going on here?

What a sleazebag. ASHI stoops to a new low.

Who is the the person above....do we as in members newer than 2 years know who this is you are refering to?

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Here is our legitimate email address we've always had: nachi-nh@comcast.net
Here is the deceptively similar one the ASHI past President concocted: nachinh@comcast.net

Nick!

I should remind you that Mr. Bates and Mr. Robert McDonald were the co-authors of the defeated ASHIFIED House Bill 642. This HI Bill was written "straight down the line" after the ASHI "Model" Home Inspectors bill. Anyone can find a copy on the ASHI website.

Both of the gentlemen are the principals behind the so called "New Hampshire" coalition.

Here is a copy of the E-Mail that Joseph Bates sent to me.
NOTICE THE USE OF THE NACHI TRADE MARK.

-----Original Message-----
From: NachiNH [mailto:NACHINH@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:47 PM
To: 'FCarrio'
Subject: 1-24 meeting

Frank,

I accept your invitation to the 1-24-07 meeting for myself and 2 guests.
I NEVER SENT HIM AN INVITATION!
Can I bring a check to the door, or can I pay by credit card in advance? The total would be $135.00 for 1 member and 2 non-members.

Please let me know.

Thanks.

Joe Bates
NACHI Member


Here is their information.

Robert McDonald ASHI President {Lives In Maine}
Certifications / Memberships
► Certified Member of ASHI
(American Society of Home Inspectors)
► Founding Member of NNEC-ASHI
(Northern New EnglandChapter of ASHI)
►President of NNEC-ASHI (2004-2007)
(Northern New EnglandChapter of ASHI)

Joseph Bates, SomersworthNH. ASHI Immediate Past President
Certifications / Memberships
► Certified Member of ASHI #202429
(American Society of Home Inspectors)
► Founding Member of NNEC-ASHI
(Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)
► President of NNEC-ASHI (2001-2004)
( Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)

[Joe Farsetta]

Paul,

The member (past) Joseph Bates, who has been removed from the member roles.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Ahhh......never heard of them...guess I was before my time...sorry Joe F...just wanted to know who the guys were.

[Joe Farsetta]

Frank,

As Joe made no mention of NACHI on his company website, and based on his involvement with ASHI and legislation in your neck of the woods, tell me how and why he became a member in NACHI.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by pabernathy

who is the person you are speaking of......interested minds want to know...lol

Joseph Bates, Somersworth NH.

ASHI Immediate Past President
Certifications / Memberships
► Certified Member of ASHI #202429
(American Society of Home Inspectors)
► Founding Member of NNEC-ASHI
(Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)
► President of NNEC-ASHI (2001-2004)
( Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by pabernathy

Who is the the person above....do we as in members newer than 2 years know who this is you are refering to?

Joseph Bates, Somersworth NH.

ASHI Immediate Past President
Certifications / Memberships

► Certified Member of ASHI #202429
(American Society of Home Inspectors)
► Founding Member of NNEC-ASHI
(Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)
► President of NNEC-ASHI (2001-2004)
( Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Jim!

I want to thank you for your kind words. They mean a lot, and are greatly appreciated. .

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

Frank, As Joe {Bates} made no mention of NACHI on his company website, and based on his involvement with ASHI and legislation in your neck of the woods, tell me how and why he became a member in NACHI.

How he became of NACHI? By taken the NACHI test, and taking the NACHI "Code of Ethics test", etc.

By his use of the NACHI Trade mark and his "Hi-Jacking" of the NACHI New Hampshire State Chapter's E-Mail address he has Violated the law. I hope that Nick takes legal action against him.

By his many disparaging remarks he is clearly in violation of the NACHI COE. By his singular promotion of ASHI and negative remarks aimed at NACHI he is clearly in violation of the COE.

QUOTE:
The NACHI member shall assist the NACHI leadership in disseminating and publicizing the benefits of NACHI membership.

The NACHI member will not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to NACHI, fellow NACHI members, NACHI employees, leadership or directors. Member(s) accused of acting or deemed in violation of such rules shall be reviewed by the Ethics committee for possible sanctions and/or expulsion from NACHI.
END QUOTE:

Other ASHI members have told me that "his Chapter" paid his dues to join NACHI. This of course I cannot verify. But…..I ask you why would a PERSON WITH THIS BACKGROUND JOIN NACHI

Certifications / Memberships
► Certified Member of ASHI #202429 (American Society of Home Inspectors)
► Founding Member of NNEC-ASHI (Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)
► President of NNEC-ASHI (2001-2004) ( Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)

and then not mention it to anyone, nor have any mention of it on his website.

As to the why...... Mr. Bates told me that he got his "copy" of the New Hampshire Home Inspectors Bill off of the "Members only" section of the NACHI BB. I explained to him that it was just a rough draft and that he should not be quoting it.

Other ASHI members have told me that the “Members Only section” of the NACHI BB is where Mr. Bates gets his “Inside Information”.

• We have been, and continue to be in a long hard fight.

This is why, when it comes to New Hampshire and our battle against ASHI I have done my best to stay off of the BB. and I will continue to do so.

[Stephen W. Stanczyk]

Frank, I don't think you are correct. While I don't agree with what this person has done, I don't think he has broken the law. What about this site? http://www.nachi-fujikoshi.co.jp/eng/index.html They use the letters nachi in their website address also. Just because someone uses those letters in their company name or url, does not mean they have broken the law. Maybe Joe Ferry could comment.........Joe?

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Hopefully this will convince the lawmakers in New Hampshire that no regulation is required at this time and everyone wins.

Joe,

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT..... Mr. Bates is one of the founders of ASHI New England, He is the immediate past President of ASHI New England, He is a co-author of the defeated ASHIFIED New Hampshire Home Inspectors Licensing bill {House Bill 642} that was written "Straight Down the Line" after the ASHI "Model" Licensing Law.

Apparently he became a member of NACHI so that he could gather information from the "Members Only" section of this BB.

He has violated the law by using this E-Mail address: NACHINH@Comcast.net

Our State Chapter's legitimate E-mail address is NACHI-NH@Comcast.Net

• I ask you....why should his illegal, duplicitous and disingenuous behavior convince our lawmakers in New Hampshire that "No Licensing is needed at this time.?"

If that is the case then this argument dictates that if anyone opposes anything at all, then all they have to do is....break the law, lie, and the matter that THEY ARE TRYING TO DEFEAT will just "Go Away"!

Then this violation of a Trademark law, and duplicitous statements would erase 17-months of hard work. Five {5} months of intense research, and many, many hours, days, and months of interaction with our State Representatives, and fellow home inspctors.

• That would be just "Handing them a Victory!"

THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by sstanczyk

Frank, I don't think you are correct. While I don't agree with what this person has done, I don't think he has broken the law. What about this site? http://www.nachi-fujikoshi.co.jp/eng/index.html They use the letters nachi in their website address also.

Just because someone uses those letters in their company name or url, does not mean they have broken the law.
With all due respect, you are WAY off the topic of discussion.
Maybe Joe Ferry could comment.........Joe?

This story is long and ugly. In an effort to defeat the New Hampshire Home Inspectors Bill the ASHI Coalition has been E-mailing, and calling all NACHI members.

There is a huge ***** difference between a corporation with the LEGITIMATE acronym “NACHI” and a founding member and immediate past President of ASHI with this background and credentials using this ASHI E-Mail address’ NACHINH@Comcast.Net as opposed to our Legitimate NACHI State Chapter E-Mail address NACHI-NH@Comcast.Net

Ø Mr. Bates was the Co-author of the ASHIFIED House Bill 642. It was defeated. He now opposes our bill. He has formed a “Coalition” to fight our bill.

Here is his information.
JOSEPH BATES

Certifications / Memberships

► Certified Member of ASHI #202429
(American Society of Home Inspectors)

► Founding Member of NNEC-ASHI
(Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)

► President of NNEC-ASHI (2001-2004)
( Northern New England Chapter of ASHI)


Joe Bates <M>
OmniSpect
Dover, NH 03820
888-490-6664
office@omnispect.net
www.omnispect.net


You are right. This is a legal matter. It should be addressed by Nick and NACHI’s legal consul.

• I do not think it is wise or ETHICAL for an attorney to discuss this in a public forum.