Watch what the Democrats do...

[klott]

now, when the President tries to make the situation better here. just so you know obama is fighting it too.

[Michael Larson]

McCain and Bush are responding to pressure from constituents.

People are torqued over high gas prices and a smart enough to see that there will be huge increases in food prices and energy for heating this next Fall and Winter.

It will interesting to see if congress will thwart these efforts again.
I would think even those dolts can see the hand writing on the wall.

Obama's "solution" is to tax those big bad oil companies.

Now ask yourself this:

If the government came along and decided to increase taxes substantially on YOUR business activities, would you raise or lower your prices?

Them Dems don't seem too bright, now do they?

[rmaday]

Saw a snipet from McCain that he would remove the offshore restricitons.
Obama said that drilling offshore will not help right now.

Neither mentioned ANWR - what is it with the Eskimos?

[tdietrich1]

"Eskimos" isn't proper, one the word is incorrect, and two, ANWR, is a barren ice waste land. Very few people even visit that area.

tom

[tdietrich1]

Originally Posted by rmaday

Obama said that drilling offshore will not help right now.

dearly pandering to his drug addict supporters. The rest of us understand sometimes you have to work hard first before seeing the rewards.

Tom <Not a fan of "Obama's quick high campaign.">

[rmaday]

Originally Posted by tdietrich1

"Eskimos" isn't proper, one the word is incorrect, and two, ANWR, is a barren ice waste land. Very few people even visit that area.

tom

"Eskimos" was tounge in cheek - as far as ANWR you made my point - why aren't we getting the oil from there?

FYI -
from dictionary.com

Es·ki·mo
Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[es-kuh-moh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -mos, (especially collectively) -mo for 1. 1.a member of an indigenous people of Greenland, northern Canada, Alaska, and northeastern Siberia, characterized by short, stocky build and light-brown complexion. 2.either of two related languages spoken by the Eskimos, one in Greenland, Canada, and northern Alaska, the other in southern Alaska and Siberia.

[klott]

So, it might not help right now, just think how much better off we would be now, if the politicians would have done something back in the seventies. Even if they don't really do anything now, Opec will get scared and lower prices immediately below what it would cost for us to get our own energy, to keep us from gaining energy independance, we have to beat them at their own game. Have you ever wondered why Europe has been paying $5 & $6 a gallon for years now, when we were just paying less than $2? Because Europe was made up of a bunch of small countries which could not get together and come up with a plan of their own, or have the resources to do so. We can, if these stupid piliticians which have sold us out, will get out of the way! It should be law that all government vehicles, Federal & State, should run on Natural Gas!

[klott]

ANWR is not a barren wasteland, it is a thriving ecosystem, which can be protected while we get the resources out from under it.

[rmaday]

Originally Posted by klott

It should be law that all government vehicles, Federal & State, should run on Natural Gas!

Darwin would be smiling every time one of them got into a single car accident after a night of hard drinking.

[tdietrich1]

It should be law that all government vehicles, Federal & State, should run on Natural Gas!

Being a fire fighter, this is just another way to expand government. Since the devastation I've seen with CNG is so great, we will be paying many widows, and needing to expand our forces.

NIMBY!

[rdawes]

Drilling anywhere will not help right now. That's the sentiment that got us into this mess,i.e. thinking only of the quick politically expedient fix. If we had been drilling and building refineries and been building nuc for the last 5 years we'd have much lower prices now. If we had done it for the last 10 years, we could tell the Saudi's where to shove their oil. Drill Now or see prices double again in 5 years.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

I can tell you this we will not solve our problems using the failed old tired polices & techniques that the Bush Administration has enacted in its pitiful eight year reign.

One thing we know for sure... the oil problem and the energy crisis will not be solved through more drilling. If we directed 1/3 of the resources we are currently pissing away attempting to become an empire through invading & occupying sovereign nations we would not be in this crisis.

There is no easy way out of this if there is a way at all, and there is no quick fix either. It is time to stop electing leaders who manage by crisis and put those folks in power who have a long range outlook and a world view that does not begin and end with the escalation of aggression as the first line of diplomacy.

[tdietrich1]

BTW, what is our list of "Right Now Fixes For High Fuel Prices?"

tom

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by tdietrich1

"Eskimos" isn't proper, one the word is incorrect, and two, ANWR, is a barren ice waste land. Very few people even visit that area.

tom

Agreed, that's why it bugs me when I recently heard McCain say we shouldn't drill in ANWAR just like we shouldn't drill in the Grand Canyon.

Visitors to:

Grand Canyon = 5 million/year Grand Canyon Photos

ANWR = ??few hundred top?? ANWR Photos

Let's not forget that the proposed drilling area is 2,000 acres within ANWR's 19.5 million acres. Do the math.

Do you think we can somehow manage to to use this minuscule amount?

[tdietrich1]

Why is the 'oil shale' in the Dakotas against the law just to explore?

tom