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Old 12/10/08, 12:10 AM
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The INACHI form is the easiest form to complete for the inspection. The only improvement it needs is a place to insert a front and rear photo. I used Adobe Live Design and turned it into a form that I can fill out on the computer,



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Old 12/10/08, 12:12 AM
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Nick claimed that NACHI members are doing tens of thousands.

He used the fact that three of our members have done a thousand, each.

Now, we learn that there are tens of thousands being done....but by anyone, associated or not. And for $49.

And the insurance industry is about to follow suit?
Jim, you are way off base, and are picking your statistics, here's some facts for you:

FL has 4.5 million single family homes
Citizens insurance corp insures 40% of them
Citizens requires 4 point inspections on all homes over 50 years old (about 35% of insured)
Other lesser carriers require them on homes of 25 years old.
at worst that means a 4 point on 1 million properties.

how we looking?

BTW, the compitition is no where

Greg, I have NEVER done one for less than $125.00, I do have a local NACHI inspector does them for $85 to compete with local contractors

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Old 12/10/08, 12:15 AM
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Jim, you are way off base, and are picking your statistics, here's some facts for you:

FL has 4.5 million single family homes
Citizens insurance corp insures 40% of them
Citizens requires 4 point inspections on all homes over 50 years old (about 35% of insured)
Other lesser carriers require them on homes of 25 years old.
at worst that means a 4 point on 1 million properties.

how we looking?

BTW, the compitition is no where

Greg, I have NEVER done one for less than $125.00, I do have a local NACHI inspector does them for $85 to compete with local contractors

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It must vary by region. That is the price I get also but do few of them for that reason. I can't blame people, why pay twice as much.



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Old 12/10/08, 12:18 AM
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Nick,
Yes, we did. It arrived last night and thank you very much. I have not played with it yet as I need a patch cord for the computer connection but I did plug it in and play with the remote so I know it is going to be perfect for our training.

Nick has always come through for us as individuals and as a chapter. He very generously gave our local chapter a Power Point projector to use for presentations and training. I have had the pleasure of working with Nick on a couple of things and he always comes through, is generous to a fault. I see people bash him and his ideas all the time but often the reason something does not get off the ground is due 100% to lack of participation or failure to ask the right questions. Some of Nick's good ideas never got any feet under them because people found out they might to actually do something for themselves so there was not enough further interest to keep it alive. Why waste time and money on a project few people are willing to even support or participate in.
I have to add, every time I or our chapter has asked Nick for something, he has come through for us.



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Old 12/10/08, 12:22 AM
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It must vary by region. That is the price I get also but do few of them for that reason. I can't blame people, why pay twice as much.
I agree Greg, local market issues are a pain, however a year ago INACHI members were not even in the ball park due to the requirement for an electricians seperate inpsection, that issue is now moot.

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Old 12/10/08, 12:26 AM
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Ray writes:

Greg, Gerry and Doug already did, but not before you called me a liar.

Of which are all from Florida. So anyone not from Florida getting these 4 point inspections?

Nick I never called you a liar but you most certainly like to fluff things up to fictitious proportions.

So what I'll do is talk to 2 good insurance friends tomorrow. One owns an Allstate agency, the other a State Farm Agency. If they have anything remotely close to this I'll let you know. Matter of fact I'll let you know regardless. It aint about getting off your butt, it's about this type work does not exist in my area.... other than like Greg said a company wants you to snap a few pictures of a home 50 miles away for $10. Certainly no 4 point inspections in this neck of the woods, that being the largest city in the dirtysouth aka ATL.

Maybe should have change the title of the thread to '' How are Florida members are getting insurance work, and lots of it''
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Old 12/10/08, 12:27 AM
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Gerry writes:
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however a year ago INACHI members were not even in the ball park due to the requirement for an electricians seperate inpsection, that issue is now moot.
Yeah, licensed electrician's aren't too happy with me over that one.



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Old 12/10/08, 12:31 AM
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I personally do 1 -2 insurance inspections per month [at clients request]and it's typically not the 4 point inspection, it is only one sytem, roof, electrical etc. The most recent was just last week and it was an electrical inspection. My fee for this inspection and for all other insurance inspections for 1 [one] system only is $150.00CAD
Short report, easy money,....more like "found" money!

I personally have to thank Nick and NACHI for opening my eyes to a new inspection service that I didn't offer in the past!





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Old 12/10/08, 12:35 AM
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I'm working with 15 insurance companies on a similar form, only this one for hail damage.

The universal hail damage insurance form will be adopted and be for exclusive use by InterNACHI members only.

Of course our hail damage insurance form will be used in areas other than the South.

Watch the project update page for status as we progress: http://www.nachi.org/roofdamageassessmentcourse.htm



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Old 12/10/08, 12:43 AM
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I personally do 1 -2 insurance inspections per month [at clients request]and it's typically not the 4 point inspection, it is only one sytem, roof, electrical etc. The most recent was just last week and it was an electrical inspection. My fee for this inspection and for all other insurance inspections for 1 [one] system only is $150.00CAD
Short report, easy money,....more like "found" money!

I personally have to thank Nick and NACHI for opening my eyes to a new inspection service that I didn't offer in the past!


Mario,

Yes I do system inspections, or individual inspections, or let's say there was some hail damage and a home owner needed a new roof, well the home owner (not an insurance company) wanted me to verify or inspect the work. But Insurance system inspections I'm not familiar with that in my area? Please explain.


Also, I'll assume that you do not have these 4 point insurance inspections in Canada either?

Please anyone other then Florida please tell me if your're doing these 4 point inspections. I'm checking with 2 good insurance owners tomorrow. One owns an Allstate Agency, the other an State Farm Agency..... actually I know a 3rd person, she's an independent insurance broker, I'll ring her too.
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Old 12/10/08, 12:46 AM
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Ray... what inspections? You said yourself that there are only 12.



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Old 12/10/08, 12:50 AM
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And I'm meeting with an insurance company that is considering requiring InterNACHI members to perform a Phase I Fireplace and Chimney inspection for ALL Re-Insures... that's each year folks!

That is why we had to develop http://www.nachi.org/comsop.htm#17

Until now, no standards of practice existed anywhere.



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Old 12/10/08, 12:52 AM
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Anyway, I'm doing the best that I can guys and swingin' at every pitch.



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Old 12/10/08, 1:02 AM
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Ray... what inspections? You said yourself that there are only 12.


Shamwow! It's got to be the best infomercial ever! It's on every other second down here!




Anyways, I was razzing' you Nick. It looks like someone needs to keep you honest round here. I did not mean to hurt your feelings but I think you tried to hurt mine by calling me a liar I just know that this type inspection called a 4 point inspection is not prevalent around here and sounds like it's mostly if not all in Florida. I'm still checking with my 3 insurance business owner connects to see what they have to say.

Hey the stats Gerry threw out were impressive. I wouldn't mind doing 1000's of inspections a year at $125 a pop.


But please do me a favor and try to answer a question when asked, you are nearly impossible to get a direct answer out of!

Off topic BTW, can you send me a shipment of Head Start Home Guides tomorrow or not?
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Old 12/10/08, 1:10 AM
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And I'm meeting with an insurance company that is considering requiring InterNACHI members to perform a Phase I Fireplace and Chimney inspection for ALL Re-Insures... that's each year folks!

That is why we had to develop http://www.nachi.org/comsop.htm#17

Until now, no standards of practice existed anywhere.
Nick, are you referring to a Level I inspection for FPs?



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