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Old 10/1/08, 9:47 AM
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Are you saying that the Nazi's will reorganize in Germany if we leave now or are you saying that someday the Iraqi people will out of the blue develop the strong resolve necessary to build a strong enough democracy that Germany, S. Korea and Japan did if we maintain a +100K force there indefinitely?
Give it some time Nick, 5 years is a very short.

When the Iraqis get used to a level of peace they will be able to defend it themselves.

As we draw down troops in Iraq we will be able to send more to Afghanistan to deal with problems there.



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Old 10/1/08, 11:16 AM
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Give it some time Nick, 5 years is a very short.

When the Iraqis get used to a level of peace they will be able to defend it themselves.

As we draw down troops in Iraq we will be able to send more to Afghanistan to deal with problems there.
The problem I have with sending more troops to Afghanistan is we should be getting more out of other nations and NATO.
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Old 10/1/08, 11:24 AM
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We have had a shrinking military for a long time.


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Old 10/1/08, 11:25 AM
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The problem I have with sending more troops to Afghanistan is we should be getting more out of other nations and NATO.

History is extremely consistent on one point, eventually... Everyone who has throughout recorded time occupied Afghanistan has left, most were defeated or worse off for their effort. Any wonder why other countries are reluctant to commit forces?



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Old 10/1/08, 11:30 AM
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What kind of "maverick" is John McCain if he votes for this monstrosity today?

He should do himself and his campaign a favor and vote against it.

Obama will vote for it for sure.



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Old 10/1/08, 11:45 AM
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What kind of "maverick" is John McCain if he votes for this monstrosity today?
The kind of "maverick" that would seal the deal on me voting for Bob Barr.




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Old 10/1/08, 11:55 AM
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The kind of "maverick" that would seal the deal on me voting for Bob Barr.
It's your vote use it wisely.



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Old 10/1/08, 11:58 AM
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History is extremely consistent on one point, eventually... Everyone who has throughout recorded time occupied Afghanistan has left, most were defeated or worse off for their effort. Any wonder why other countries are reluctant to commit forces?
Agreed, and I have said in a couple of my posts we will be fighting for a long long time. Its not a matter of claiming victory in the war as it is claiming victory in the battles. I hope no one expects to win as we should expect only to contain it the best we can. One less terrorist is one less chance we have of another attack. In the long run places may stand up and see our way of living free is better than oppression but in will take time....a long time!
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Old 10/1/08, 12:03 PM
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It's your vote use it wisely.
Choosing between the two parties is not a priority to me, especially if they expect me to forgive them for passing this $700 billion scam in any form ...




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Old 10/1/08, 1:14 PM
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Hmmmm! isn't this interesting.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus, 40 percent of whose members are fellow Californians of Ms. Pelosi, voted 12 to 8 against the bailout, while the Congressional Black Caucus rejected it by 21 to 18. The overall vote was 228 to 205, meaning that a shift of 12 votes from nay to aye would have brought passage.

What, Obama couldn't twist a few arms to get the bailout he says he wants passed?

What a fraud.



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Old 10/2/08, 8:00 PM
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Barney Frank on the No spin zone tonight.

The teaser was a shouting match.



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Old 10/3/08, 10:48 AM
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Barney Frank on the No spin zone tonight.

The teaser was a shouting match.
Here is the video from last night. Video



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Old 10/3/08, 1:07 PM
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Just watched Pelosi's rah-rah speech prior to the 2nd House vote...what was that bump on the back of her skirt? Tail between her legs maybe? The bill will pass the house shortly!



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Old 10/3/08, 1:10 PM
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Voting is underway.

This may explain why it will eventually pass.



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Old 10/3/08, 1:28 PM
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PASSED

263 Yay
171 Nay

I guess this proves if you add enough pork and scare the crap out of them they'll pass anything.



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