What's wrong with municipal code inspections?

[William J. Decker]

While I am sure, and have experienced, many professional and ethical municipal code inspectors, all too often, they are neither professional or ethical.

Especially in mobbed up or unioned up (which, in some case, is the same thing ) cities like Chicago or New York.

See here:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...-57695282.html

Comments?

[Dale Duffy]

Kind of like "Whats new" .. huh Will...same **** different day.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by dduffy

Kind of like "Whats new" .. huh Will...same **** different day.

What really irks me is when the contractors, sub-contractors, Realtors and the public see HIs as, somehow, below code inspectors. That they see a municipal code inspection as the zenith of inspections, rather than the nadar that it really is.

I was just talking to a Realtor (seller's agent) this morning. She could not get it through her head that home inspections were more thorough and more comprehensive that a city code inspection. I told her:

1) We are state licensed, not mere municipal employees.
2) We are, according to state law, required to inspected to current national standards, not mere local codes, which are bare minimum requirements.
3) That we look at the quality of the house, not just minimum structural and electrical and so forth conditions.
4) That we do not recognize "grandfathering" especially when it deals with items of safety.
5) That, many times, different code inspectors overlook or "allow" things that the written codes say that they should call out, like lack of flashing above deck ledger boards.

Here's the kicker (at least in Illinois), HI's have liability, but no authority. Code inspectors have authority, but no liability (per state law).

But, everyday is a new education opportunity.

Hope this helps and thanks for allowing me to vent.

[Brian E. Kelly]

What are you saying Will, Private, Free Market business's are bribing people to circumvent the system to increase their profit with no regard for the well being of the public????

OMG that is simply INCREDIBLE NEWS.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

What are you saying Will, Private, Free Market business's are bribing people to circumvent the system to increase their profit with no regard for the well being of the public????

OMG that is simply INCREDIBLE NEWS.

No. I am saying that private, corrupt organizations (the mob, unions) are infiltrating public jobs (municipal building departments) and soliciting bribes from pribate business's at the threat of not approving the construction work (whether the work is worthy of being red flagged is another issue).

As to the "free market" point, we have not had a truely free market economy in the U.S. since the New Deal.

Meanwhile, private companies (home inspectors) are being hired by private clients to inspect the construction work and are saving those clients money and headaches when the government employees are not doing so.

Hope this clarifies.

[Brian E. Kelly]

6 inspectors taking $100 Bribes is now some giant cosa nostra conspriacy to infliltrate the Govt. You are kidding right??????????

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

6 inspectors taking $100 Bribes is now some giant cosa nostra conspriacy to infliltrate the Govt. You are kidding right??????????

To be clear, 6 caught, so far, in New York. Over the past 10 years, 37 caught, so far, in Chicago. I know Chicago better than New York. In Chicago, the three legs to the stool holding up the political machine are the Old Irish street gangs, the mob and the unions, working together.

I did not say that it "is now some giant conspiracy to infiltrate Govt". What I said was that there are mob guys who work for the city and take bribes and do little work and deal drugs and do other illegal things.

It is always seen, in heavily democrat big cities, a link between the mob and the unions and the government (at least in some city government employees being mobbed up). In Chicago, it is seen as a cost of doing business, in construction, especially, that there are bribes to be paid, whether to the codies or to the material's suppliers or to the teamsters or to the construction unions. And we all know about mob involvment in the unions.

Clear now?

[Brian E. Kelly]

Now you are starting in on the Irish??????????? WTF is wrong with you? Post this hateful racist crap somewhere else.

[Brian E. Kelly]

POLITICAL CRAP

Here is a thought as many here have asked that political discussion be held in the not for everyone thread I am going to post this. And for those that feel the same way as I do, please bump this post when a political thread is posted here. Then we can kina get a fell where members stand on political discussion on the message board.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Now you are starting in on the Irish??????????? WTF is wrong with you? Post this hateful racist crap somewhere else.

Sir, I am not being racist, merely descriptive. My (paternal) Grandmother's name was Hennrietta McMahon, and came to the U.S. from County Cork.

If you lived in, or were familiar, with Chicago politics, you would know that the current (since the mid 1930s) political machine was instituted by the Irish street gangs ("athletic clubs") from the "back of the yard's" neighborhood, also called Bridgeport (so named because it was behind the old beef and pork sluaghterhouses). Mayor Richard J. Daily got his start in these gangs. The Irish settled here because so many of them worked on the construction of the I&M Canal.

See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley

and here:

http://www.wikitree.com/articles/Dal...ghborhood.html

and here:

http://www.uic.edu/orgs/LockZero/V.html

I am not as familiar with New York Politics, but I grew up here, wento to school with many politically "connected" families and am very well read in Chicago politics.

No racism, just being descriptive.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

POLITICAL CRAP

Here is a thought as many here have asked that political discussion be held in the not for everyone thread I am going to post this. And for those that feel the same way as I do, please bump this post when a political thread is posted here. Then we can kina get a fell where members stand on political discussion on the message board.

[Michael Larson]

Hey message board cop!

Go whine somewhere else.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Hey message board cop!

Go whine somewhere else.

pppppkkkkk offf ahole

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

pppppkkkkk offf ahole

Notice how he gives and in-depth, comprehensive and annotated rebuttal to my previous post? How witty of him.

And how indicative of the left. When you don't have any facts to back up your feelings, throw a hissy fit and call names.

Sad, really.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by wdecker

Notice how he gives and in-depth, comprehensive and annotated rebuttal to my previous post? How witty of him.

And how indicative of the left. When you don't have any facts to back up your feelings, throw a hissy fit and call names.

Sad, really.

No more racist crap Will???????????